i have a 15 rg stage 1 right now true duals with cfr slip on and a powervision. looking for recomendations on a good bolt in cam. im thinking of the s&s 585 easy start. but not sure. a freind did the 551.i wasnt that impressed with his dyno numbers, thanks in advance
A lot of dealers and independents like and recommend the Woods performance cams like the TW-777 or 555. I am not sure for the '15's, but I would look into those.
I don't know what's up with the '15s. I would get on the phone with Frank Drago, Scott at Hillside, T-Man and Fuel Moto. All four will talk as long as you want about your build. Then you will have all the info you need to make an informed decision based on your budget and future plans.
Well true duals and CFR's are notorious for producing poor bottom end, so you may want to rethink your exhaust first if you are looking for performance. The second thing that comes to mind, you live in the same town as Tman Performance, so I would suggest starting there. His 555 Torqusters put up good numbers in stock trim or you could consider going to the 577's or 590's if you are willing to do some head work and bump up the compression. Talk to TR and see what he has to say. Good luck.
Just curious as to what your friends dyno numbers were with those cams? Have you ridden his bike to feel the power or just going off of his numbers? Those true duals and CFRs aren't the best starting point for you as JD HD mentioned. According to the S&S website, those 585's come into action around 3000 RPM through redline, just something to think about. Cam research is very important when choosing which ones to buy, comp ratio and your RPM that you are going to be in most of the time. For the record, I'm not trashing the 585's or anyone who is running them. Just do your homework so you're not regretting your decision later.
Zombieo2, I have the the 551 cams and am very happy with them. That being said I also did other motor work at the same time that helps the cams. As others have said, your exhaust will have an effect on your final performance regardless of what cams you you.
I would encourage you to ride your friends bike and others if possible to actually see how they perform. Lots of great info on this sight about cams. Spend some time actually looking at your tach and see where you do your riding and where you want the cam to come on. As stated by S&S, 2-4k maybe 4.5K its done, for me and my riding style it works for me.
At the same time I did cams, my buddy put Andrews 57 cams in his 12 Streetglide and he is very happy with his choice. I suspect that most people are happy with theirs as well.
I personally love my fueling 525 torque reaper cams but I am running a 96 inch motor in my 2011 fltrx, I would recommend the 543 cams, great low end torque and smooth powerband all the way up, a few members have them on there 103s, and they are very under rated. Good luck.
I had the Fueling Reaper 574 full Cam Chest Kit put in my '11 RGU and Road Dawg is 100% right on! way under rated. Incredible power curve, didn't change my mpg but a couple miles & the Billet oil pump increased my oil PSI between 20 & 30 lbs. I cant say enough, plus down the road if I want to upgrade the engine I won't need to choose another cam.
If I were to purchase cams right now for a touring bike with stock compression, either a 96" or a 103", I'd buy Andrews 48's. If it was a softail I'd run the Andrews 57's. Plenty of other great cams to try but so many of them need added compression to really shine.
Well put, some many people over cam for a stock motor, you need the cam that best fits what you are running. Also Woods cams are ground by Andrews if my memory serves me correct, Fueling also grinds there own cams, those for me are the only two cams I would run, Both are priced reasonable and have excellent track records.:nerd: Sorry I left out the Woods 222 , the only reason I didn't choose it was overall the Andrews and Fueling were better priced and very similar performance.
I just had the same set up done last week with the exception of a different high flow A/C, picked up yesterday after work and took it for a ride.
Very happy with the upgrade, pulls hard after 3K rpms which is where I normally cruise on the highway two up.
RC Cycles did the tune, 96 hp & 119 tq, otherwise stock 103 motor, and I haven't figured out how to up load pics, so don't have the dyno sheet to post.
My buddies numbers were 85hp and 110 tq thought he'd have more hp. I'm leaning toward tw-777 talked to woods today that was his recommendation for my bike. Read a lot of good things about that cam. Anyone have any numbers from it on a 103
Good grief man your smack dab in the middle of TMan country. Take the bike to him, tell him your goals and you'll get it back tuned and running like a scalded dog.
woods 222,or cycleramas .575 touring cam,remember it's not all about the lift,duration and ramp angle plays a big role in when and where the power comes in,I am running blackwidow .585 cams that I love but I did beacoup headwork,they are also noisy because the ramps are very agressive,also the most important thing is to replace the inner cam bearings with the full compliment torrington bearings.btw
Remember,you can't ride a dyno sheet,big horsepower and torque numbers don't always equate to a good ride,dyno numbers are for bragging rights and fine tuning
went to t-mans shop today and talkd to him.learned alot.learned the difference between a 103 and a 103 high output.the HO already has a se255 cam in it but the valve timing been changed on it. it has smaller chambered heads running more compression. 10 to 1.plus he says the stock heads are capable of running up to a .670 lift cam.i have the HO motor so with all said he reccomended his 600sm said its a bolt in cam. and did tell me to take off the cfrs. already did that put mine older rinehardts back on. thanks everyone for the input.really appreciate it .
There ya go, lets up know what you end up doing, mufflers can make a big difference in torque and performance as well as your choice of headpipe, good luck.
Kuryakyn TC24D. Read about all the cams. I did. I went with the Kury wild things cam. My second choice was Drago's Franks have a higher torque peak but not for as long. The kury breaks 100tq at 2400 RPM and stays there till 5900RPM with a high of 113.87. And 99.9 HP
Its a smooth hard pull.
Does anyone know who makes the cams for kuryakyn? im sure one of the well know companies grind it for them, the torque curve that you presented on them looks good except for one thing, its goes up to 5900rpm, who shifts there or brings there hog that high in the rpm range, IMO anything after 5200 is not really useable. I am not saying its not a good cam, but fuelings and woods 222 come in around 1800 to 5200 rpm, I feel that's more rider friendly and in a range most people shift in.
Like i said all the reading i did and reviews. TC24D were hands down the best. My local dealer said he wasn't gonna like them and that I'd be lucky to get any power. After they installed and dyno'd it they now carry and recommend them on there builds
That great, another good cam I must look into, surprised more people aren't running them, I guess it's like the same thing with my fueling cams not enough people know about them.
I wonder how they would perform in a 96 inch motor, surprised no one knows who grinds kuryakyn cams out there.
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