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Fuel and Volt gauges stopped working...

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#1 ·
Fuel and volt gauges stopped working randomly today. Lights to the gauges also not lighting up to the fuel and volt gauges. I checked fuses, connections to gauges, handlebar etc. Bike starts runs fine, radio works, speedo tach work, no check engine light. Turn signals and joysticks work. Im at a loss at this point...what say you Guru's??
 
#2 ·
Kind of odd, the lights for the gauges and the sensors are on different connectors for the gauges. Only thing they seem to have in common is being located towards the top of the fairing. I can't imagine you hit a few bumps really hard and jarred them loose? Have you ever had the fairing off? If not, it seems you may need to take a look, I can't think of another way to trouble shoot without removing the fairing. Maybe someone else will chime in who knows something I don't.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Rock, it's easy to miss a blown fuse just by checking by eye.
I would check all the fuses with a test light just to make sure they are all good.
After that, I would pull the main fuse for 30 sec. to a minute then replace it to see if that resets everything.
If that doesn't work I would make sure that you have power and ground to the gauges and lights that aren't working.
Hope this helps.
Mike U.
 
#9 ·
Thanks brothers...gonna rest on it and go at your suggestions with fresh eyes and mind tomorrow...Consulting with Jack Daniels for awhile and he says try tomorrow. :laugh:
 
#10 ·
Well I couldn't resist. Had the gf drive me to the parts store and got a fuse tester and fuses. Grabbed a k&n oil filter while I was there. 5k is due. Anyway I tested all fuses. All tested good. Grounds and connections checked again. All solid connections.
 
#12 ·
In your pic you show a 2015RG so it is a can buss system so that creates a whole new can of worms. You may have to go to harley and have them plug it in to the computers and it will tell you exactly what it is. That's my understanding anyway. Good luck.
 
#13 ·
Boy I'd hate to do that. Gonna pull the codes and see what I can find out with them. I found how to do that...

Harley Diagnostic Codes

To access codes

1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear.

4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" (on mine the “t” looks more like a “╘” )with the first P flashing.

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)
P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted])
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
SP = speedometer
T = tachometer



To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

1 - Record the codes.

2 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 3 If the code is current it will reappear.

4 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

5 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

On models not equipped with a tachometer "No Rsp" will appear when the tachometer identifier is selected.

"No Rsp" will also appear if the run/off switch is in the off position when doing this procedure.

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HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM = Turn signal module

Priority/DTC/Fault condition
1. P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error
2. P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error
3. U1300 ECM Serial Data Low
4. U1301 ECM Serial Data High
5. U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial Data to ECM
6. U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ECM
7. P1003 System relay contacts open
8. P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted
9. P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low
10. P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed
11. P1009 Incorrect Password
12. P1010 Missing Password
13. P06415 V+Vref 1 Out Of Range
14. P06515 V+Vref 2 Out Of Range
15. P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent
16. P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low
17. P0108 Map Sensor High
18. P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error
19. P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error
20. P1270 TGS Validation Error
21. P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault
22. P2122 TGS1 Low/Open
23. P2123 TGS1 High
24. P2127 TGS2 Low/Open
25. P2128 TGS2 High
26. P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)
27. P0120 TPS1 Range Error
28. P0220 TPS2 Range Error
29. P0122 TPS1 Low
30. P0123 TPS2 High/Open
31. P0222 TPS2 Low
32. P0223 TPS2 High/Open
33. P2135 TPS Correlation Error
34. P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body Range Performance
35. P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open
36. P2101 EFI Motor Circuit Range Performance (Actuation Error)
37. P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low
38. P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High
39. P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned
40. P1514 Air Flow Fault
41. P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown
42. P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low
43. P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High
44. P0572 Brake Switch Low
45. P0117 ET Sensor Low
46. P0118 ET Sensor High
47. P0112I AT Voltage Low
48. P0113I AT Voltage Open/High
49. P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
50. P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
51. P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
52. P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
53. P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
54. P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
55. P0261 Front Injector Open/Low
56. P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low
57. P0262 Front Injector High
58. P0264 Rear Injector High
59. P0562 Battery Voltage Low
60. P0563 Battery Voltage High
61. P0501 VSS Sensor Low
62. P0502 VSS Sensor High/Open..
63. P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion
64. P1353 Front Cylnder No Combustion
65. P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low
66. P0445 Purge Solenoid High
67. P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error
68. P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low
69. P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High
70. P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low
71. P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low
72. P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High
73. P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High
74. P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive
75. P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive
76. P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode
77. P1511 EFI Power Management Mode
78. P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode
79. P0577 Cruise Control Input High

Priority/DTC/Fault condition


HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM = Turn signal module

1. U1300 Serial Data Low
2. U1301 Serial Data High
3. U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data
4. U1255 Serial Data Error
5. B1142 Smart Security System Internal Fault
6. B1135 Accelerometer Failed
7. B1136(HFSM) Accelerometer Tip Test Error
8. B1151 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Ground
9. B1152 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Battery
10. B1153 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) High
11. B1154 Clutch Switch Input Short to Ground
12. B1155 Neutral Switch Input Short to Battery
13. B1134 Starter Output High
14. B1121(TSM) Left Turn Output Fault
B1121(HFSM) Left Turn Output Open
15. B1122(TSM) Right Turn Output Fault
B1122(HFSM) Right Turn Output Open
16. B1123(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Ground
17. B1124(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Ground
18. B1125(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Battery
19. B1126(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Battery
20. B1143(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Ground
21. B1144(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Battery
22. B1145(HFSM) Security Antenna Open
23. B0563 Battery Voltage High
24. B1131(HFSM) Alarm Output Low
25. B1132(HFSM) Alarm Output High
26. B1141(TSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open..
B1141(HFSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open
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#14 ·
The newer bikes are a little different with the code menu. But first 3 steps get you the menu. Then one press of the odometer reset button scrolls through each field. Long press opens and shows the codes in each field
 
#15 · (Edited)
Pulled the following Diagnostic Codes:

ECM-
P1512- ETC forced idle mode
P2122- TGS 1 low/open
P2127- TGS 2 low/open
P2138- TGS correation error
U0001- CanBus Fault
U0140- Lost communication with BCM
U0141- Lost communication with LHCM
U0142- Lost communication with RHCM
U0156- Lost communication with Speedometer

BCM-
62141
62146

SPDO-
U0001- CanBus Fault
U0121
U0140
U0141
U0158
U0159
U0160

ABS-
U0142- Lost communication with RHCM
U0001- CanBus Fault
U0003- Network management monitoring

RDO-
NONE

B2141- Left turn signal output open
B2146- Right turn signal output open

I was able to use my old bikes FP3 to pull some additional codes and definitions. Oddly enough checking the codes with infotainment system was unable to help saying no DTC codes present...
 
#16 ·
It's a 2015 bike so use the warranty. If you screw up the wiring or you make some other type of mistake you may be responsible and have to pay out of pocket.
 
#18 ·
I swapped out the bars awhile ago, but fuel/volt gauges were working after the bar change. Plan to take it in, just dont wanna pay out of pocket of course. Hoping warranty will cover it! :surprise:
 
#19 ·
Due to the holidays and having kids, gf and family off~ It'll have to wait til next week. Time with family is more important than hanging around the dealer all day while they troubleshoot/fix the bike. Although I could drop it off and pick it up I guess. But there again with the holiday, it'll probably be until next week til there is any resolution with it anyway. It starts, runs and rides fine. So I can do without the fuel/volt gauges for awhile.
 
#20 ·
Ok, got it figured out and fixed! While talking with a buddy yesterday, he mentioned that it had to be a bad connector and suggested that I check pins in connectors. All it takes is one pin to be muffed up in the system to screw it up. Sure enough, the connector that plugs into the speedo/tach cluster had a bent pin that wasn't connecting. Must have been when I took it apart to install the poly bushings after the bars. I changed the bushings several days after the bars since they hadn't arrived yet. Patience and perseverance and the brainstorming with a few friends got me to the solution. That's what is great about these forums. People with fresh thoughts unattached to the problem always seem to offer help and a new perspective. I was so focused on that it wasn't working, what it could be and frustrated that I didn't think of the small things. Saved me god knows how much taking it to the "steeler" for them to solve it...:grin:
 
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#23 · (Edited)
I had the same problem today... turned on the ignition.. cranked the engine n boom everything went off... fuel n batt gauges reset to zero with no lights.. speedo not working.. rpm stuck at 1500rpm.. the lcd on the speedo is blank n none of the lights on the speedo are working.. both meters no lights as well... only the boombox works.. the boombox reset itself too with the clock n programmed fm staions all lost... mine is a 15 RGS with only 500kms on it.. engine runs fine...nothing changed or swapped out yet.. bringing it to the dealer to get it sorted... its a bummer tho cause was planning on a holiday ride
 
#24 ·
Hope you get it straightened out! Let us know what caused it. Mine was a bent pin, found when a friend told me to check them. I checked that all connectors were connected, but didn't think of checking the individual pins...
 
#25 ·
Well the dealership insists on a full diagnostics to root out the problem.. but being the holiday season and all they can only see to it next week... which is alright cause they also installing the upgraded boom2 i ordered.. so till then im riding the 13 rg. Compliments of the dealership :)
 
#26 ·
If it makes you feel any better Rock, on Christmas Eve me and the Mrs. decided to take a ride and have lunch. I'm sitting at a busy intersection in town and my bike sputters and quits............. So we dismount and push the bike up on the sidewalk.

Wife says: "did we run out of gas"?

I say: "don't think so, the fuel gauge still shows a 1/4 tank and the range meter still shows 51 miles".

I continue trying to start the bike to no avail. Guy in tow truck pulls up and offers assistance. Turns out I met him at a bike rally earlier in the fall.

He says: "did you run out of gas"?

I say: "don't think so, the fuel gauge still shows a 1/4 tank and the range meter still shows 51 miles".

He says: "open the tank and check any way".

So I do......... guess what? Out of gas :) He has a gas can so I put in about a 1/4 gallon and the bike fires right up. Ride to gas station and proceed with remainder of ride.

Gotta love Harley...................
 
#27 ·
Dealership got back to me.. apprently the speedo meter went dead... as the power for all the gauges are connected to the speedo the rest are not being powered too... its a warranty claim.. so now i have to wait till the speedo cluster part gets shipped in from US...
 
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