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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-05-2017, 01:08 PM
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I had a Vision before I bought my RGU and there was always a bunch of HD bashing on the Victory forums. I rarely saw any Victory or Indian bashing on HD forums until Polaris closed Victory.
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seetiggergo You nailed it. I'm one of those guys. In fact, I just started a thread a little while ago asking for suggestions on how to pep up my new 107. I was spoiled to the 106 performance and I'm having a hard time acclimating. That being said, I don't trust Polaris as far as I could throw them, so I bought a bike that will always be around and will have dealers available to service it.
I have never understood the business plan with this company. With all the money they have, placing at least 2 stores in every state with trained techs, American made shirts, and an extended warranty program that included free tows. This alone would have made some people jump IMHO. I hope the company does well because we win if they do.
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I had a Roadmaster just was not for me.Don't think a new fender will help.
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I did not hate Victory nor do I hate Indian. I dislike Polaris. Got screwed with one of their ATV's. Riders bitch about HD and warranty. Good luck with Polaris . I knew owners of Victory bike that got burned. Unable to get parts or service. Polaris seemed to not care.
The whole phony Indian thing never sat well with me no madder who was using the name. Now a high priced Indian will just be a dressed up Victory with a higher price tag.
Wish them luck but won't be putting one in the bike room.
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Pictures of the new Indians here - 2017 Indian Chieftain Elite and Limited | First Ride Review | Rider Magazine

I admit to not being a fan of the too classic styling of the Indians, but the lack of valanced fenders seem to help them a lot to my eyes. I was really rooting for Victory to make it. The Vision, besides looking like Bozo the clown from the front, had small storage space in saddlebags for a touring bike. I took a Cross Country out on a test ride at a Bike Week, but was not impressed enough over my Road Glide to trade. But I liked that it was not a copy of Harley and that they were choosing a more modern design than most of the Harleys. But, again, there was the lack of local dealers and dealers along where I ride.

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It's pretty typical.

They re-purpose Victory fenders and wheel and charge people a premium for the courtesy. AND, only offer one solid color. If they really thought that this was a direction to go. Charge $500 less for the open fenders and see how many people still insist on the fully valanced fenders. My guess is that not too many people will continue to want the full fender and now the whole brand gets muddied.

I didn't think I'd like the Chieftain with an open fender, but it actually looks pretty fresh. They may be onto something here, unless they insist that they need to sell more of the valanced fender than otherwise.
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[QUOTE=08Zinc;3895026]Pictures of the new Indians here - 2017 Indian Chieftain Elite and Limited | First Ride Review | Rider Magazine

Ooof, I am sorry but that is butt ugly to me. I know everyone has their personal preferences, but I'd choose a Vulcan Vaquero before I'd ride one of those (and still almost have enough leftover to buy the XSR900 I want).


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I rode a Vaquero on a long test ride. It is a great looking bike in need of a different motor. As a Vulcan fan, Kawasaki blew it with the 1700 motor. It only felt good between 2 & 3,000 RPM. Below 2000 it was lugging the motor and anything over 3000 RPM felt as if the motor was strained. Far different from the 1500 I had years ago and wish I never sold. The valanced fenders really help the new Indians, but that fairing is still not for me. So, I call it improved, but not pretty. That XSR900 looks fun. Not familiar with it, but would be a blast as a 2nd bike to the Road Glide.

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Ooof, I am sorry but that is butt ugly to me. I know everyone has their personal preferences, but I'd choose a Vulcan Vaquero before I'd ride one of those (and still almost have enough leftover to buy the XSR900 I want).
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I rode a Vaquero on a long test ride. It is a great looking bike in need of a different motor. As a Vulcan fan, Kawasaki blew it with the 1700 motor. It only felt good between 2 & 3,000 RPM. Below 2000 it was lugging the motor and anything over 3000 RPM felt as if the motor was strained. Far different from the 1500 I had years ago and wish I never sold. The valanced fenders really help the new Indians, but that fairing is still not for me. So, I call it improved, but not pretty. That XSR900 looks fun. Not familiar with it, but would be a blast as a 2nd bike to the Road Glide.
My first bike was a Vulcan 1500. It was a super reliable and fun bike, but it struggled above 75mph. Never road the Vacquero, but liked the look except for the bags.

The XSR900 is a blast. My buddy just picked one up as a 2nd scoot after I had been nagging him repeatedly to go try it. He always rolled his eyes when I'd mention it but as soon as he rode it, he was sold. Picked it up from the dealer 3 days later. It is quite a large/tall bike that sits you in a more upright position that is more comfortable (at least for me). I'm 6'3", 265 so a lot of the "fast bikes" make me look and feel like a monkey f***ing a football. This does not. And I can get the front wheel up easily
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My first bike was also a 1500 Vulcan Classic. I had no issues getting above 75 mph as I put in a 95" kit and had headwork done. I kept it with my first 2 Harleys.

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