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Old 06-16-2012, 07:17 PM
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What's the resolution of the knock sensing tables and how much change should I dial in at a time? Haven't got the SEPST software yet so I'm just looking at the SERT software to get an idea. But generally that's the plan, AFR's 1st then timing. I've a got dip in power when taking off from a dead stop I need to address as well. I have no idea what's causing the hot condition since the bike is probably not running too lean.
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You can advance the timing in several degree increments until you see knock sensing activity, then back it off until your right on the threshold. Seeing a little activity is not a bad thing, it shows you're at the right spot for best power.

Being too rich at cruise and having crap fuel milage doesn't mean it's not too lean at idle and is creating excessive heat.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:47 AM
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What's the resolution of the knock sensing tables and how much change should I dial in at a time? Haven't got the SEPST software yet so I'm just looking at the SERT software to get an idea. But generally that's the plan, AFR's 1st then timing. I've a got dip in power when taking off from a dead stop I need to address as well. I have no idea what's causing the hot condition since the bike is probably not running too lean.
Good advice so far... Some of my 2 cents...

Ensure you save your custom tune to you PC and USB before reflashing the ECM.

Reflash using the base map from the calibration list, then don't adjust anything, but just start Smart tuning. When you reflash w/ Smart tune enabked, AFR all goes to 14.6 and it retards the itming by 4%.

Get good coverage, low to high RPMs, far left to far right in the VE tables.

Continuously compare base calibration VE tables to your latest VE table, so you can see the changes and what cells you might be missing. TTS does this for you, but unless you have another program like My Tune, you need to do this manually with SE Pro.

When you feel good about the VEs not changing much, create a map and adjust your target AFR table to what you want. Some people run a small closed loop area in cruise range, others use a larger closed loop section in the cruise range.

Go for a nice ride, adjust your AFR table or decel enleanment as necessary to eliminate poping (but if your VEs are good, poping will be very limited).

Then go through, do some basic recordings, not smart tuned, look for spark know, then adjust timing as needed. +2 at a time, no more than 45%. Then reduce where you get knock.

The bottom line, I would continue to push the Service Manager and dyno guy to get it right. There is something obviously wrong. I'd be curous to what their map looked like (VEs compared to base map they flashed, AFR tabel - all open loop?, timing - like you said no changes..). You paid good money...
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You can advance the timing in several degree increments until you see knock sensing activity, then back it off until your right on the threshold. Seeing a little activity is not a bad thing, it shows you're at the right spot for best power.

Being too rich at cruise and having crap fuel milage doesn't mean it's not too lean at idle and is creating excessive heat.
I've seen base SE Pro maps run closed loop 14.6 target AFR at idle. IMO, way to lean during idle. Some people run 13.8-14.0 at idle to help with heat. But that means nothing if your VEs are not good.
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FML.
Got my bike back from the HD shop today. Installed new SE tuner software on the laptop. Discovered the new VCI uses a 6-pin connector; I have a 4-pin connector leftover from SERT. Dang.

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Alrighty then, got cables and as it turns out they are the same as the ones I already have.

I downloaded the HD dyno tune custom map from my bike and I'm going to attach the file for some of you more experienced guys to check out. As always your comments, input and suggestions are welcome.

Oops, apparently can only upload jpg's. Anyway to upload and share this data file?

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