header without cat

[danglide]

Originally Posted by Tattoo_shark

wow,not sure if you are saying its for sale but would like it

send me a PM and I'll get a pic if you want,but yes,I'm planning to sell it.I have no use for it now.

[redbaron]

Originally Posted by Still Grumpy

Chech out this seller on EBay..

dakvt

He has
the de-Cat stock headers for $140 shipped.

Here's a link : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-US

Did anybody tried out one of these ebay rebuilds headers? if yes how do did it perform?

[Skid1]

Originally Posted by outcast1

Still confused-most references I've seen to Stage 1 include mod to exhaust system. Are you saying dealers can't remove exhaust and install entire new pipes that have no cat in them, thereby tampering with the emission controls? My dealer has a Vance & Hines catalogue right on the counter, and it looks like they are doing precisely that.

They are talking about removing the cat from the stock head pipe, not replacing the it with an after market head pipe.

[smitty901]

Originally Posted by tmd

You'll be hard pressed to find a dealer or even a muffler shop to remove the cat because it is a violation of federal law to tamper with exhaust emissions. All you really need is a hacksaw, a chisel, and someone to weld it back together.

Most every Dealer will point you to someome that will gut the headers.
It is aginst the law to modify any exhaust system. So far many still do it.
That is why the products are sold as racing.
That was why JJ left CA he was fined big time for exhaust on the bikes he built.
Gutting the stock headers is easy to do but you better get the tune right of the do not run well.
I gave up on the low cost route after the last one. This time it will be Fuel Moto cermic line 2-1-2 headers doing it right this time

[Rkfltrx]

IMO if you just wanting to get rid of the heat and get more sound, gutting the head pipe is the cheapest way to do it. From what I've read on this forum and from my own experience a tune is not necessary as long as you don't change out the A/C to a higher flowing unit. Now with that said, it is true that you could get more performance from one of the aftermarket pipes. I haven't seen a comparison between a gutted pipe and x-type pipe. I have seen a lot of comparisons on changing the whole system out though, and I could understand how that would be a performance gain. So explain to me the difference between changing out the head pipe to one without a catalytic converter and removing the catalytic converter from the stock head pipe? Either way your getting rid of the catalytic converter even if you cut it out or take it off. I will agree though a good tune would be a good thing to get since HD leans them out because of EPA requirements.

[moose1]

I got mine from my dealer for a 100 exchange


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