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post #21 of 604 (permalink) Old 03-12-2013, 09:31 PM
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Good luck to you. You are already encouraging others.The road ahead is not going to be easy, but it can be done. If you have not done so already, get the sugar out of the house. It is to easy to open the pantry and see something that you do not need at this time. I to am on a special diet but it is not due to weight, I know how difficult it is to not eat what everyone else in the world today calls normal. Fast food for everything, the less processed the food the better off you will be.

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Great start , Keep it up

So glad you had the courage to open up and share with us. Not sure if I could have done that. My heart goes out to you ,but also realizing your not looking for
Sympathy or pity. I believe that we must approach life one day at a time, that's
the way God created it. Keep up the good work and everyone that cares about you will be cheering you on.

God Bless you and your family.
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Morbidly Obese and Seeking Help

Originally Posted by gr8bigdude View Post
Sometimes, one needs to create accountability for one self by publicly proclaiming your intention to do something very important. In my case, I am morbidly obese and MUST lose weight; if I want to be around much longer.

My body is a basket case. A few highlights: ACL blown and rebuilt back in the 80's, significant 2nd and few patches of 3rd degree burns to face/head/hands from an explosion and fire a decade ago, and a few years ago I suffered sudden cardiac death from V-Fib. I'm 48 years old and I have an implanted cardioverter defibrillator, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, low thyroid, sleep apena, and I'm on blood thinners to help avoid a stroke due to heart arrhythmia.

So, I was in visiting my least favorite doctor a week ago, and he was very upset that I gained 20 or so pounds after losing that and more two years ago. He read me the riot act - I dreaded the visit, because I knew he would. Yep, he's a good doctor who isn't afraid to get up in my face to make a point. Anyway, after our little conversation, I signed-up for a physican supervised diet.

The diet is a program that starts as a diet, but transforms into a new and healthy lifestyle - for many people. In case there are those who are interested in details, I'll share a few:
Phase 1: Protein Only Phase. The goal of up to the first 4 days is to induce ketosis, which means that your body is burning fatty tissue, and your carbohydrate stores have been depleted. After a couple days, you start monitoring your ketosis levels with ketostix - little plastic strips that have a tiny square pad on the end you pee on. Yep, you diabetics know what of I speak. In Phase one, you eat 10 oz of very lean protein per day, in 3 servings. Chicken, fish, shellfish, egg whites, etc.. Let me tell you, by the end of day two, you are a walking zombie. I was ready to eat the flesh of anything alive or dead. Ok, I'm being dramatic. You also begin B12 injections and using a product called cell-press, which is a cellulose pill that reacts with water to expand in your tummy and make you feel full. Some patients can also use prescription medicine to boost your metabolism - I can't, due to my heart rythm issues. Oh, and you need to drink a gallon of water per day. Coffee and tea, black, is OK to drink. Thank goodness!

Phase 2: Combined Phase. Once you're in ketosis, you can add a 2-4 servings of veggies and certain fruits to your 10 oz of protein. One cup of raw or 1/2 cup of cooked veggies, such as asparagus, green beans, cucumber, peppers, mushrooms, spaghetti squash, etc... No beets, bread, carrots, corn, pasta, potatos, rice, tomatos, etc... The allowable fruit is 1 small apple, 1/2 cup of blue berries, 12 cherries, 1/2 grapefruit, 12 grapes, 6 strawberries, etc... No dried fruit. No diet soda, except those using Stevia as a sweetner. No Aspertame (Nutrasweet), milk, juices, creamers, etc... You can eat all the lettuce you want, but only 2Tbsp of dressing per salad, such as balsamic vinegrette that has no or very low sugars. You stay on this phase until you achieve your goal weight. If you happen to exit ketosis, you simply revert to phase one until you regain ketosis again.

Phase 3: Maintenance Phase. Now you have learned a new way to eat. The goal is to maintain your weight at healthy levels. You can't go back to your old habits, but you can add some "normal" food back into your diet. Keep watching the scale... If you start going porky, it's back to phase one. Moderation of carbs is critical.

During phases 1 & 2, you weigh yourself daily. You check you ketosis levels daily in phase one, and regularly in phase two to be sure you're still in ketosis. You end ketosis in phase 3.

The doc I'm going to is a former morbidly obese person, and he and his business partner (a diabetic) started "The Weigh Station" to help people who are moderately to morbidly obese and want/need help.

So, I started last Thursday (7 March 2013), and I entered ketosis on Sunday. I began adding my veggies Sunday night. My beginning weight was 367 lbs. Keep in mind, at ~10% bodyfat, I am still north of 220 lbs (I'm a former competitive power lifter - my wife was a competitive bodybuilder), but I do have a long ways to go for reasonably good health. As of this morning (Tuesday the 12th), I am down 14 lbs. Yeah! A little trouble with sleeping, but nothing horrible.

If you don't mind, I will post regular updates throughout the spring and summer, until I reach my goal weight of 250. If I can stay focused, I am expected to be at my first goal before Thanksgiving. Publicly proclaiming all this is very difficult for me, but the doc believes it is critical for my success to have accountability to those who I respect. Call me out if I am not posting, if you dare or care to help me be accountable.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone. I'm sorry if this is the stupidest thing you've ever read and you feel like you lost a few minutes of your life for nothing. If admins don't feel this post is worthy of remaining on this site, go ahead an kill it, hide it, or burn it. After writing this, I'm still not sure I want to click the submit button. Grrr, man.
Were with you bro! I'm a 34 year old guy who use to powerlift I have had a rough few years myself 330lb not much muscle left, 6'4when I was lifting I was at 250lbs. Tell you what I've lost 15 in the last month. Yes I was at 345! If your looking for some motivational help or your gonna fall off email me ill give you my number we can follow up,I only have high blood pressure now but both knees have been fixed from my former athletic frets. Lol your the man for posting! It doesn't hurt to have people to talk to!

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I have read a lot of stupid posting here but your is not one of them by no means. Good luck on your journey and just remember that you didn't put it on all at once so set realistic goals and never give up .

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You can do this, keep focus and LIVE!

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I have high respect for you and the choice you are making. Good luck and keep to it no matter what. We are all here to support you!

I joined WW several years ago and lost 46 pounds. I felt great and emotionally I was on top of the world. fast forward 2 years and I have gained 20 back. Now I'm not feeling it. I tell myself all the time that I need to stop over eating and get on the program again....

I think I just got my motivation back after reading your post.

Let's do this......MAN!

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Good for you! I think your doc may be on to something making you do this.

While I cannot relate to a serious weight issue, I can tell you what finally made me quit smoking after 20 years. I had tried and tried and could never do it. Then my wife's car broke down in the middle of summer here in Florida and I had to push it out of the road. I literally thought I was going to die. I didn't really think about quitting at that precise moment, but somehow I finally internalized that I HAD to do it. That was it. I quit cold turkey and it was easy.

It sounds obvious and simplistic, but my point is you have to get it in your head that you HAVE to do this. Your post makes me think you may just be at that point.

Please keep us up to date.


Oh, and that walking thing is a great idea. I did that also. Doesn't matter how far or how fast, just set some small goals and work up.

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Man, I was almost afraid to check back in the forum... I am grateful for all the positive responses. Really cool group of folks on this site. A few responses:
Ohiobellboy: I like that quote. I'm going to steal it.
laxiniharley: you have just given me a fantastic idea - for every 25#, I get an upgrade!
qkshift: You are on! Every Monday we post our weight. Great idea....
Jetman: yes, it probably is and thanks for the offer
Skid1: huh, never thought of it that way
TRUBlue: my wife is a former competitive bodybuilder, and still a fitness freak. She can run circles around most women 1/2 her age, and can cook like Paula Deen. Back when I was powerlifting, I took a lot of Andro (OTC at the time). Popped them like candy. When I came off, my weight problems began.
dbell: I actually trained my wife for her bodybuilding competitions, but for some reason can't help myself. I need to see weight loss like I used to think about a pile of weights - something to conquer.
Ranger75: funny shit - thanks for the laugh
TracyB: I was considering the lap band, but there are complications with any surgery, due to my defib and accompanying arrhythmias. It is still an option, but the doc says it needs to be a last resort - and I'm up against it now.
calgaryglide - I had backed-out of SWIII, but I'm seriously reconsidering backing in again. I like the skinny pool splash competition. Sorry to hear about your diabetes. Our last foster daughter was a type 1 diabetic, who came to us in diabetic ketoacidosis. Scary as heck - her mom wasn't taking care of her (why DSS removed her), but we helped her get into good management in the year or so we had her. She's now on an insulin pump and doing great, and was reunited with her birth father who stepped-up in a big way. Hoorah for miracles! Anyway, I have some insight into how tough it is to manage the disease and I congratulate you for being able to drop 37 pounds!

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good for you man. not a bad post at all. you are an inspiration.

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I wish you luck with your dieting, and wish you the best.

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'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.'
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