Can't catch a Brake... Please help - Road Glide Forums
Tech Area For Tutorials and Instructional Materials

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 08:36 AM Thread Starter
Grey beard
 
Z-SHARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Las Vegas Nevada
Posts: 1,222
Can't catch a Brake... Please help

Well I'm about to give up and bring my bike to the Dealership. My front Brakes have been real mushy since I bought the bike a couple weeks ago.. 2004 Road glide.

It still has brakes but its right at the bar. I tried just bleeding them first with a cheap bleeder kit... nothing

Then I bought a Master cylinder rebuild kit and a mighty vac.. I rebuilt the master and I have tried bleeding the system 3 times now and it still seems to have bubbles coming out of bleeder.. I have made sure not to run the res out of fluid and keep pumping the vac. I had to filled up the res 4 times and it still wont get air out.

When I squeeze the lever I get a air bubbles coming up threw the reservoir.. normal ?

Am I missing something or can it be a caliper problem maybe??

Trying to get her road worthy for Sturgis... Any help would be much appreciated.
Z-SHARK is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 08:43 AM
Grey beard
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: western Montana,USA
Posts: 1,430
there shouldn't be ANY air.If there is after bleeding,then there's a leak somewhere or it isn't being bled right.Make sure you are holding the lever down when you tighten the bleeder screw,and make sure you are bleeding it enough.Loose brake line perhaps?

you might try putting a piece or clear tubing over the bleeder screw,then pump it up and bleed it until there are NO air bubbles coming out.you'll have to repeat it a few times.you want to get ALL the air out.Make sure the brake line is tight on both ends.

Hope this helps.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
2012 FLTRU-Thunderheader,T-max,tuned induction,progressive monotubes,Madstad 16 clear
2002 FXD-T-header+too many mods to list
danglide is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 09:13 AM
Life Member
 
rlaf75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: East Hartford CT
Posts: 7,194
There should NOT be any bubbles anywhere in the system. Make sure the master cylinder went back together properly and like stated before make sure there arent any loose fittings.

09 Mirage Orange Pearl

Some people just need a high-five. In the head. With a chair
rlaf75 is offline  
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 09:29 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3
Shouldn't have bubble but i had a similar problem on my road king a while back. Try pulling of the calipers one at a time and look at them while squeezing the brake lever. For some reason the dual caliper units have an issue with road grime building up around the pistons on the calipers and it prevents them from stroking in or out of the caliper without great pressure. You can either use brake cleaner and clean this or the better fix would be to get the caliper seal kit and do a minor rebuild on them. If you rebuild them i would use a brake lubricant on the pistons as well. Just my 0.02.
glide_king is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 05:14 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 19
Check youtube for brake bleeding video's and if you have dot5 fluid if u use any vacumm pump it makes the fluid airate that's why Harley now uses dot 4 its a stronger compound. Brake bleeding takes time and patience good luck
ground pounder is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 05:21 PM
Life Member
 
93-331-29psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chesapeake VA
Posts: 3,737
Did you bench bleed the master after rebuild? That's where I'd start.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'12 Candy Colbalt Twilight Blue FLTRXSE
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
93-331-29psi is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 07:20 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Spanish Fort Al AKA L.A.
Posts: 723
As usual all the above is good advice.

In addition I would also check to make sure your bleeder valve is not TOO loose. If it is air can seep around the threads. Be sure you are holding the brake in the squeezed position when closing the valve.

I use a clear hose and a old clean peanut butter jar with a hole in the lid just big enough for the clear hose to fit. Push the hose all the way to the bottom, and add clean brake fluid.

Then you can pump away and it will maintain a sealed system, you can see the air and dirty fluid, and its cheap. I never had much luck with vacuum brake bleeders.

Also before going to the dealer invest in some Speed Bleeders.
http://www.speedbleeder.com/

They are worth their weight in gold.

Tom
Lord Help me to be the Man my Dog thinks I am!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by TearlessTom; 07-22-2012 at 07:26 PM.
TearlessTom is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-22-2012, 07:44 PM
Member
 
Lady Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: S.E. Kansas
Posts: 330
user name

WHY would you choose a user name exactly like someone else except with a dash in it confusing ?????? just saying.....

There's 2 kinds of family the ones we're related to and there's biker family the lucky ones have both
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Lady Z is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-23-2012, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
Grey beard
 
Z-SHARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Las Vegas Nevada
Posts: 1,222
First, thank you all for the fast replies with all the feedback. I haven't tackled it again yet. But going to apply a lot of what was said and give it another go before i bring it to dealer. I have a friend coming by to help and will post a outcome for sure.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Z View Post
WHY would you choose a user name exactly like someone else except with a dash in it confusing ?????? just saying.....
Thanks for bringing that up..I can fully understand why you would make that comment. It was the first user I typed in when i joined. And once I saw some other posts and how active your ZMAN is. I emailed the brass about changing mine. I did that on Fri and still waiting to for answer.

If you know how I can change it on my own please let me know. I have been living 41 years by my life. I'm certainly not trying to live someone else's. Sorry for the unintentional confusion. Nice to meet you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 93-331-29psi View Post
Did you bench bleed the master after rebuild? That's where I'd start.
The directions on the rebuild kit said to add lube packet supplied into the cylinder bore hole only.. Didn't say anything else.. Do I need to take master back off bike for bench bleeding? Excuse me for the dumb question, but How is bench bleeding done?
Z-SHARK is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-23-2012, 08:07 AM
Life Member
 
HD_Shock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oklahoma - the windy part
Posts: 1,851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Z-MAN View Post

Thanks for bringing that up..I can fully understand why you would make that comment. It was the first user I typed in when i joined. And once I saw some other posts and how active your ZMAN is. I emailed the brass about changing mine. I did that on Fri and still waiting to for answer.

If you know how I can change it on my own please let me know. I have been living 41 years by my life. I'm certainly not trying to live someone else's. Sorry for the unintentional confusion. Nice to meet you.
Yeah, you've thrown me a couple times because the name you chose is so similar to another long-time member. If you PM a Mod or Admin, they can get it changed for you.

-phil

2011 FLTRX 103


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

VH Dresser Duals | Klock Werks SS | HD Ventilator | Power Vision | Santees 11in Apes | CB SSC Euro 15in

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
HD_Shock is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Road Glide Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
run a crankcase breather w/catch can? cookie114 Intake and Exhaust 34 07-14-2017 03:28 PM
Newb in ATX "keep it weird" is the catch phrase Trvlngman357 New Members Welcome Area 51 01-30-2013 03:17 AM
Please, Please, Please don't do this... cnidog Safety Area 13 09-01-2012 10:51 AM
Wouldn't catch me dead DemonCity General Off-Topic Discussions 32 09-07-2011 10:20 PM
Catch and release shark fishing? BigDaveOnBass General Off-Topic Discussions 5 05-09-2011 09:24 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome