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Would like to ask for any advise some experienced hot weather riders could offer me on the following.

I'm originally from Michigan so if any of this seems like a dumb question please forgive!
Moved to Phoenix AZ area 4 weeks now. Weather has been 105+ since my arrival.

So In Michigan, I rarely ever experienced the engine control system shut down the rear cylinder due to heat, now in AZ it's an every stop light occurrence, so has me wondering if there is more heat related items I should be concerned with.

In AZ Heat...
1. Do you keep the Engine Control function enabled all the time?

2. Should I consider different weight oil? I currently use AMSOil Full Syn VTwin oil (Don't recall the Viscosity) but same as HD stock.

3. Should I consider oil/filter changes more frequent? Currently change at 6k or what was one Michigan summer season for me.

4. Rider Gear, I see people bundled up like riding a snowmobile! Is more really less? Sometimes my hands feel like I'm sticking them in an oven at 350 degrees while riding mid day!

5. Saddlebag, On way hoe from work (8 mile drive) I put my laptop in my saddlebag (Vivid Black) and by the time I'm home it's as hot as fire! Not even turned on! Any Thoughts?

6. Anything else I should be thinking about?

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Would like to ask for any advise some experienced hot weather riders could offer me on the following.

I'm originally from Michigan so if any of this seems like a dumb question please forgive!
Moved to Phoenix AZ area 4 weeks now. Weather has been 105+ since my arrival.

So In Michigan, I rarely ever experienced the engine control system shut down the rear cylinder due to heat, now in AZ it's an every stop light occurrence, so has me wondering if there is more heat related items I should be concerned with.

In AZ Heat...
1. Do you keep the Engine Control function enabled all the time?

2. Should I consider different weight oil? I currently use AMSOil Full Syn VTwin oil (Don't recall the Viscosity) but same as HD stock.

3. Should I consider oil/filter changes more frequent? Currently change at 6k or what was one Michigan summer season for me.

4. Rider Gear, I see people bundled up like riding a snowmobile! Is more really less? Sometimes my hands feel like I'm sticking them in an oven at 350 degrees while riding mid day!

5. Saddlebag, On way hoe from work (8 mile drive) I put my laptop in my saddlebag (Vivid Black) and by the time I'm home it's as hot as fire! Not even turned on! Any Thoughts?

6. Anything else I should be thinking about?

Thanks in advance!
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I lived in SoCal for 53+ years and now I'm in Texas and in the heat of the summer I never activated the rear cylinder to shut down and my bike did just fine.

As far as your oil goes I always had the same oil as the dealership used and once again my bike still ran great.

Oil does break down in heavier heat but make sure you or the dealership doesn't over fill because in the high heat it will expand.

As far as clothing in the dead of the heat for me, less is better. I'm not so concerned about clothing for safety.

Good Luck

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I lived in SoCal for 53+ years and now I'm in Texas and in the heat of the summer I never activated the rear cylinder to shut down and my bike did just fine.

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Thanks! I really don't like how the bike shakes while running in the active mode (standing at a light) I swear people are looking like that thing runs like shit!


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I live in Tampa and its always HOT. I use the EITMS on my bike and yes it sounds awful. But I rather be safe than sorry.
I use the Amsoil SAE 60 synthetic V-Twin oil in the engine all year round. I also use Mobil 1 synthetic 75w140 gear oil for the tranny and redline synthetic for the primary.
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Thanks! I really don't like how the bike shakes while running in the active mode (standing at a light) I swear people are looking like that thing runs like shit!
Why should you care what other people think. When the EITMS is active, the rear cylinder is pumping air through the engine which helps keep everything cooler. It is a good thing.

You need to see what temps your notebook is rated for. They have a rating for when they are off and when they are running.

You need to dress like an Arab in the desert of Arizona. Loose fitting light colors with no skin exposed. You will still sweat so you want to keep the fluids flowing constantly. We had a sign in above the urinal regarding the color of your urine to determine if you are hydrating enough.

Also, the heat and UV rays will wear everything out quicker.

Regarding engine fluids, Harley actually says to increase frequency when operating in cold temps, but dusty conditions (Arizona) also require more frequent changes.


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Why should you care what other people think. When the EITMS is active, the rear cylinder is pumping air through the engine which helps keep everything cooler. It is a good thing.

You need to see what temps your notebook is rated for. They have a rating for when they are off and when they are running.

You need to dress like an Arab in the desert of Arizona. Loose fitting light colors with no skin exposed. You will still sweat so you want to keep the fluids flowing constantly. We had a sign in above the urinal regarding the color of your urine to determine if you are hydrating enough.

Also, the heat and UV rays will wear everything out quicker.

Regarding engine fluids, Harley actually says to increase frequency when operating in cold temps, but dusty conditions (Arizona) also require more frequent changes.
I'm just looking for some friendly advise from people that have been there live that...
If you want to know about tips and tricks of riding in butt ass cold weather I have plenty!


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When its hot and humid in the florida panhandle there is no escaping it. I have tried nike long sleeve heat gear, short sleeve, it doesn't matter. The best thing for me is to avoid any traffic were I have to stop. Or I just ride at night. It got to the point this summer were I just wouldn't ride, wasn't any fun because of the humidity mostly

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You can get an evaporative cooling vest, they help for about an hour. There are cooling vests that pump ice water though tubing. Get a insulated cooler bag for the saddle bag to place your electronics in.
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You can get an evaporative cooling vest, they help for about an hour. There are cooling vests that pump ice water though tubing. Get a insulated cooler bag for the saddle bag to place your electronics in.
+1 on the cooling vest in low humidity heat. They work great in the Southwest, terrible in the Southeast. I always have a small cooler full of ice and water strapped down to my tail rack when riding for any length of time in the heat.

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Would like to ask for any advise some experienced hot weather riders could offer me on the following.

I'm originally from Michigan so if any of this seems like a dumb question please forgive!
Moved to Phoenix AZ area 4 weeks now. Weather has been 105+ since my arrival.

So In Michigan, I rarely ever experienced the engine control system shut down the rear cylinder due to heat, now in AZ it's an every stop light occurrence, so has me wondering if there is more heat related items I should be concerned with.

In AZ Heat...
1. Do you keep the Engine Control function enabled all the time?

2. Should I consider different weight oil? I currently use AMSOil Full Syn VTwin oil (Don't recall the Viscosity) but same as HD stock.

3. Should I consider oil/filter changes more frequent? Currently change at 6k or what was one Michigan summer season for me.

4. Rider Gear, I see people bundled up like riding a snowmobile! Is more really less? Sometimes my hands feel like I'm sticking them in an oven at 350 degrees while riding mid day!

5. Saddlebag, On way hoe from work (8 mile drive) I put my laptop in my saddlebag (Vivid Black) and by the time I'm home it's as hot as fire! Not even turned on! Any Thoughts?

6. Anything else I should be thinking about?

Thanks in advance!
Yea it's hot in Phoenix. I do not run the EITMS in the summer. I tried it but it didn't seem to make a difference. However, when Trump was here I had to take surface streets home and I thought my legs were well done after sitting on the bike in stop and go traffic for 2 hours. It might have done some good for that ride.

As far as Oil, I think if you follow the HD guidelines of every 5000 miles you should be good. I have never had anyone or a dealer tell me differently. You can ride all year round here so you might want to change at 5K instead of 6K. No differences here on the the weight.

As far as riding gear, I have a a HD Circular pad on my seat. https://www.shoputahharley.com/produ...yABEgJSM_D_BwE It helps keep my butt cool since its not right on the leather seat. I also have an HD jacket for summer riding that is made with a mesh like material that gives a cooling effect when you sweat and the air flows through it. You can also get a cool vest. I also wear gloves when riding. I usually wear a skid lid in the summer and a full face helmet in the winter.

As far as your laptop in the saddle bag and heat, I don't know if those are hotter due to the engine heat and the air flowing around it. I would probably put it in a backpack unless you have some type of padding in the bag. If it's not on, you should be fine if you leave it in the saddlebag.

Just watch out for the crazy drivers here. The highways are like speedways and cars are always flying in and out of traffic. Watch out for those who change lanes and accelerate as fast as they can to the next car.

You didn't say what part of the valley you live in but the Scottsdale HD dealer is the largest in the country. It's a pretty big place and all the profit from the dealership goes to Phoenix Children's Hospital and other charities.

Ride safe and be cool out there. You'll love the weather here, we just have to get through about 4 months of heat in the summer.
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