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The guy working on my bike, (2012 flrtx, 103 with Rinehart true duals, big sucker, 255 cams) is a body guy. Not really knowledgeable on the tuners.
After the stage 1 and 2 are done. He suggests the HD download for about $250.
He is in the prairies, and I live in the mountains. My present bike ('08 flhtcu) has a power commander on it, and it runs great. I asked him to put a tuner on the bike, he seems reluctant. He has never installed tuners before.
He has a buddy that will put a tuner on and dyno it, and give me a warranty $1000. (hard to get warranty work done 1700 miles away)
I don't need the dyno, so that should bring the price down.
I was hoping for an auto tuner (self diagnostic, self adjust). That I never have to adjust.
Are these available, and more importantly are they plug and play?
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Check out the ThunderMax. It replaces the ECU and uses wide band O2 sensors. With that stated, you will probably need to replace the sensor bungs. It is pricey though, but there ain't nothing cheap about anything anymore.

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See if the Power Vision by Dynojet fits your needs. You can load a map into your bike for the add ons you have or something at least close and perform basic auto tunes to have it running better and better. You Tube has plenty of video tutorials to help you learn how to perform functions, basic auto tuning sessions and whatever else you may want to know. Good luck!

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The guy working on my bike, (2012 flrtx, 103 with Rinehart true duals, big sucker, 255 cams) is a body guy. Not really knowledgeable on the tuners.
After the stage 1 and 2 are done. He suggests the HD download for about $250.
He is in the prairies, and I live in the mountains. My present bike ('08 flhtcu) has a power commander on it, and it runs great. I asked him to put a tuner on the bike, he seems reluctant. He has never installed tuners before.
He has a buddy that will put a tuner on and dyno it, and give me a warranty $1000. (hard to get warranty work done 1700 miles away)
I don't need the dyno, so that should bring the price down.
I was hoping for an auto tuner (self diagnostic, self adjust). That I never have to adjust.
Are these available, and more importantly are they plug and play?
Why do you think that you don't need a dyno?

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Why do you think that you don't need a dyno?
I am not that concerned about getting every little bit of hp. If I loose 1 or 2 hp I can live with that
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Why do you have a guy who you admit does not specialize in this kind of thing working on your bike?

Maybe you need to figure out the answer to that question before you worry about any others....


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As far as tuners go everyone will have a different opinion and thats the same with dynotuning. Personally I wont put a thundermax on my bike because I am not replacing the ECM. Plus their support isnt the greatest and geting items under warrenty has been a nightmare. Again personal experience.

I use powercommanders and powervision tuners. Stay away from the HD download they are horriable. The price is inline with a power commander 5 with auto tune and a dyno. The purpose of the dyno is to get you as close as you can get to a good tune and then let the auto tuner take over.

Auto tune only adjusts certain amounts and you really dont want them to do much more then 8%, some people have them set up to 20% and that is just nutz and not nessary.

Now if you can get a map (i am sure you can get something that is close from the forum or from fuel moto if you buy the tuner from them) then you dont "need" a dyno session because you have something that is already close.

But a good dyno session willl help with heat, fuel eco, and power gains.. It isnt just about the horse power.

Just my 2 cents.
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Why do you have a guy who you admit does not specialize in this kind of thing working on your bike?

Maybe you need to figure out the answer to that question before you worry about any others....
The guy is my brother-in-law. I completely trust him. I am glad he said he is not confident to do something, and if I really want it. It should be done right.
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As far as tuners go everyone will have a different opinion and thats the same with dynotuning. Personally I wont put a thundermax on my bike because I am not replacing the ECM. Plus their support isnt the greatest and geting items under warrenty has been a nightmare. Again personal experience.

I use powercommanders and powervision tuners. Stay away from the HD download they are horriable. The price is inline with a power commander 5 with auto tune and a dyno. The purpose of the dyno is to get you as close as you can get to a good tune and then let the auto tuner take over.

Auto tune only adjusts certain amounts and you really dont want them to do much more then 8%, some people have them set up to 20% and that is just nutz and not nessary.

Now if you can get a map (i am sure you can get something that is close from the forum or from fuel moto if you buy the tuner from them) then you dont "need" a dyno session because you have something that is already close.

But a good dyno session willl help with heat, fuel eco, and power gains.. It isnt just about the horse power.

Just my 2 cents.
Thanks Deadstroke, I appreciate the info. I have been watching fuel moto for tuner prices, but just didn't know which route to go.
The fact that there is now 28.5% exchange rate in the Canadian dollar. It just might be worth my time and $ to send it out for the Dyno and tuner set up.
Also thanks for the heads up on the Thundermax. Dam there pricey
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As far as tuners go everyone will have a different opinion and thats the same with dynotuning. Personally I wont put a thundermax on my bike because I am not replacing the ECM. Plus their support isnt the greatest and geting items under warrenty has been a nightmare. Again personal experience.

I use powercommanders and powervision tuners. Stay away from the HD download they are horriable. The price is inline with a power commander 5 with auto tune and a dyno. The purpose of the dyno is to get you as close as you can get to a good tune and then let the auto tuner take over.

Auto tune only adjusts certain amounts and you really dont want them to do much more then 8%, some people have them set up to 20% and that is just nutz and not nessary.

Now if you can get a map (i am sure you can get something that is close from the forum or from fuel moto if you buy the tuner from them) then you dont "need" a dyno session because you have something that is already close.

But a good dyno session willl help with heat, fuel eco, and power gains.. It isnt just about the horse power.

Just my 2 cents.
Amen to that.
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