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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-07-2013, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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Need some constructive input

Ok everyone, here's the scoop. I am considering and interested in adding a "tuner" to my bike. I am NOT a motorhead!!!!! I run a 2004 with Stage One Kit, no cats in the head pipes and Screaming Eagle Slash-cut slip ons ( the ones that say" not for street use" ). I am looking for a a little more " ummph" if you will. Something that I can simply plug in and go. I dont want to to dynos, downloading maps and all of that other crap. Just a little more power,especially when riding loaded with gear and two up.
I realize that many of you will think I'm a wuss for not going all in on this but all that is simply not that important to me to spend crazy amounts of money for alot of extra ponies, when a few extra ponies will be just fine.
Like I said, simple, easy to install and reliable is what Im after. The cost is the cost.
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If it was me I would go with a thundermax tunner no maps to load no dyno needed the bike will run smoother better response and a bit faster with more hp and torque I never used the power vision but did use the pcv


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most aftermarket tuners are good

Stay away from SE race tuner
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I would call fuel moto. They will talk to you and get you what you want and will be happy with. They sell a whole range of tuners and will help you with them all.

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The good news is that your headers don't have any O2 sensors. The Harley Delphi systems didn't use those back then. You could go with something simple like Fuel Moto's load based add-on tuner, which they'll pre-load a map for your stage one and slip ons. You're not looking at very much outlay of $$$, maybe ~$200. They're easy to install. If you can change your own oil, you can put one of these on your bike. I'd bet you could find one of the older Screamin Eagle Race Fueler's on ebay for around $100. You wouldhave to adjust it yourself, but again, it's very easy to do, all you need is a screwdriver. No computer, no maps to download. The downside is if you decide to further mod the engine (i.e. cams, big bore kit...), as these little gadgets will only add fuel, nothing else.

Since you don't have O2 sensors, the auto-tuners won't do any good for you, unless you have 18mm bungs welded into the right spot on your headers to accomodate the wide band O2 sensors (one per cylinder), or you buy an exhaust system that already has them in place. The auto tuners use the feedback from the sensors, along with the MAP sensor, Ion Sensor, et al, to develop fuel/timing map corrections.

I'd say get a load based fueler.....

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I have the Fuel Moto branded version of Power Commander on my 06.

http://www.fuelmotousa.com/site/fuel...efi-tuner.html

Like you, I have no 02 sensors or any of that crap so as mentioned above, the ones that auto tune don't work for us. Getting it from FM gives you the added benefit of coming to you already set up for your bike--just tell them the pipes, intake and engine mods and they'll program it before they put it in the box. And of course you can always connect it to your laptop for tweaking if you want, but if you want easy, it's hard to beat. And they have excellent customer service.

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I have to agree on calling fuel moto. Easy to install and low price.
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Thanks guys for the responses. Not being a "motorhead" , I get a little skittish on this kind of stuff as I have a fear of getting sucked into alot of money being spent and end up with something I have to screw with periodically and or something that the cost far outweighs the benefits.
I am pretty well versed in alot of things, but the intricacies of engines and fuel systems , I am not. I am leaning towards the Fuel Moto product unless some of you other seasoned experts have other feedback.

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For the most "hassle free", I'd say you were on the right path.

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Yep. PowerCommander is the value for your dollar choice. As is explained above, its simple especially if FuelMoto sends the unit programmed with your tune after you give them the details. I got the PowerVision and I cannot use most of the fancy features cause us 2006 and older bikes dont have o2 sensors. The PV is a very fancy interface with touchscreen options, but If I were to do the value choice it would be the PowerCommander. Save hundreds of $$$$ and get same results.
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