Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cocoa Beach, FL
I honestly don't think there's a whole lot of power to be gained by changing much of anything unless you do add a tuner anyway. The root problem is the lean A/F ratio in the first place.
I still maintain that the safest and most reasonable thing to do is go to at least a true full Stage 1 (mufflers, pipes, air cleaner, and tuner) or...
If you want some decent sound ASAP, just change the mufflers first and then go to the rest later.
How much HP does anyone believe is added by changing mufflers AND either the air cleaner or the pipes without also improving the lean A/F ratio to match those changes? Why even bother to risk any damage at all?
Mufflers, no sweat. More? Why bother until you're ready to correct the root issue - lean A/F ratio?
One change but no tuner?
Fine and probably mufflers.
Two changes but no tuner?
Why add risk with so little to gain?
ETA 2: I think the newer scoots have more tolerant sensors and ECMs but am honestly not sure. You should check into that too though xbohntr. I've been thinking of my '13 but didn't consider the year model you happen to have (don't even know). Yours might be even more sensitive than mine.
Bring 'em home or send us back!!
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Last edited by 4getNo1; 04-08-2013 at 04:47 PM.