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Fuel Moto PC-V review

I know there are other threads, but I thought I would put in my two cents.

My bike is a '12 RGU with Kuryakyn Power Cell 2-1-2 with Crusher slip ons and the HD hi flow intake with 18.5k miles. The dealer did the Stage 1 flash and the pipes when I bought it. The bike always ran "decent", but for some reason lacked top end (almost like a speed limiter, it just would not exceed 107 per the Nav).

I am an old carb and cams guy, but I am not ready to do motor work on this bike, so I went with the PC V from Fuel Moto. Ordered on Tuesday, received it on Saturday. Read the directions about 10 times, but the install was easy peasy. Just unplug the ECU, plug the PC-V inline using OEM style connectors, done. It took longer to disconnect and tape up the O2 sensors than anything else.

I gave FM my info on the bike configuration when I ordered. The seal on the box indicated that the map was loaded in the PC-V for my bike. And I have to say, it's a big difference over the stock flash. Much smoother off idle, butt dyno says more pull midrange and a quick little run Saturday afternoon showed 115 on the Nav for top speed.

So if you have a Stage 1 flash from the dealer, in my experience the PC-V with a map from FM will definitely make you happier.


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Good info.. I recently heard good thing bout the PCV.


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I use the power Vision with a full system from Fuel Moto. So easy to use. The Auto Tune is interesting to fine tune if you have the time to play with it. Going to run auto tune again this summer to try to fine the bike. The really nice thing is if something gets messed up, you can reload the original map sent to you by Fuel Moto, then start the auto tune over again. The Power Vision can hold several maps at once. (8 of them I think)

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This is good info. Thanks for the post!

Quick question, what were you referring to with the O2 sensors? Did you disconnect them? If so, why? I ask because a friend has an '11 streetglide and received a PV from Fuel Moto. He disconnected his O2 sensors... I've never understood why? Plus he has had issues getting the tune right and i've ridden the bike and wasn't impressed. My stage 1 flash runs harder.


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This is good info. Thanks for the post!

Quick question, what were you referring to with the O2 sensors? Did you disconnect them? If so, why? I ask because a friend has an '11 streetglide and received a PV from Fuel Moto. He disconnected his O2 sensors... I've never understood why? Plus he has had issues getting the tune right and i've ridden the bike and wasn't impressed. My stage 1 flash runs harder.
The way I understand it, the PV takes the place of the ECU and as such, does not take information from the 02 sensors, but from the pre-determined "map" that is on the PV. This map can come a library (like mine, optimized by Fuel Moto with other bikes with an identical configuration) or you can modify an existing map to further fine tune the bike.

On the current bikes, you can merely unplug the 02 sensor harnesses behind the right side cover, leaving the sensors in the pipes. Of course you can always pull the sensors and plug the holes. I left them in case I want to go back stock.

If he is having trouble with the tune, I would suggest that he contact Fuel Moto with the exact configuration of his bike and get a solid/optimized map to run. Once you start fiddling with a map (unless you are on a dyno or know exactly what you are doing), you are probably going to make is worse rather than better.

I am glad your Stage 1 is working well for you. For me the PV with the FM map is much better, from off idle to a much higher top speed.


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I just read through the manual since I ordered one on friday, I don't see where it says to unhook the 02 sensors and wonder how would you do an auto tune run with the sensors disconnected or am I missing something here?

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I was informed to leave the stock narrow-band O2 sensors on if your not using 'wide-band' O2 sensors that come with the auto-tune pro.

Mine are still connected and have been for the past 6000 miles with no issues.

Call Jamie, he will give you the correct info.

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Letís clarify things here. There seems to be 2 different tuners being discussed here, the PC-V or PC5, and the Power Vision (PV). I've had both, currently running a Power Vision.

With the PC-V or PC-5, yes, you disconnect the O2 sensors. That tuner does not use them. You can, however, add the DynoJet Wide Band Sensor kit and get Auto Tune working on it, too.

With a Power Vision, you need the O2 sensors for it to work. Auto Tune uses either the stock Narrow Band sensors (Basic Tune) or the DynoJet Wide band sensor kit added to you exhaust (Pro Tune).

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Letís clarify things here. There seems to be 2 different tuners being discussed here, the PC-V or PC5, and the Power Vision (PV). I've had both, currently running a Power Vision.

With the PC-V or PC-5, yes, you disconnect the O2 sensors. That tuner does not use them. You can, however, add the DynoJet Wide Band Sensor kit and get Auto Tune working on it, too.

With a Power Vision, you need the O2 sensors for it to work. Auto Tune uses either the stock Narrow Band sensors (Basic Tune) or the DynoJet Wide band sensor kit added to you exhaust (Pro Tune).
That makes more sense!!! Thanks for clarifying.


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