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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-24-2011, 01:16 PM Thread Starter
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Autotuner advice needed

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I am looking for a solution that is TOTALLY brainless - plug and play, maintenance free and will accomodate any changes I make to my bike (intake exhaust, etc) without having to tell it or remove it to upload new maps, etc.

I've heard mixed reviews on the Terry TV-3 - but in theory it sounds like what I'm looking for in that you plug it in, leave it in, and it 'learns/adjusts' on the fly.

I had a TTS tuner but I don't like that I had to hook it up to a computer every time I added a new part and therefore changed the optimum tune of the bike.

Anybody have any tips here?

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I was looking for the same thing, and went with Revolution Performance Tuner. This thing really hasn't missed a beat since start up on the new build.
Give Frank Drago a call, he can give ya the run down on this tuner. I know three of my buds are running it, and all are satisfied customers. It's a little spendy, but IMO ya get what ya pay for. Good luck, and keep us posted on which tuner you decide to run.

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From what I've read and gathered from HD mechanics the auto-tuners can overwork the ECM and eventually kill it. The addition of the auto-tuner also voids the warranty in the event that it does overwork the ECM... Which means you're out of pocket for the ECM and flashing should it break. However, some of what I have read has been nothing but rave reviews for how it performs.

Personally, I went with the DynoJet PowerVision and a map from Jamie at Fuel Moto. That way if I have any kind of performance problem, I can just change the map and if the ECM goes out I shouldn't have a real warranty issue with that part.


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I can definitely appreciate that the auto-tune might not be every bit as cool as the ones where you plug in to a computer and remap, but to be honest I don't need every single drop of Tq and Hp, I just want something that will adjust for my minor intake/exhaust changes without letting my motor sacrifice fuel economy or performance (or life for that matter) by running too lean or rich.
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I use the Power Commander V with the Auto Tuner, been happy so far.


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How do you overwork an ECM. The PCV intercepts signals and adds or subtracts fuel.

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I use the Power Commander V with the Auto Tuner, been happy so far.
Thanks SC. I'll check it out - just to verify, it's plug and play and it autotunes?

Any idea where I canpick up an inexpensive/used one?
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How do you overwork an ECM. The PCV intercepts signals and adds or subtracts fuel.
From what the mechanics told me it has something to do with the tuner constantly re-tuning. It isn't sitting in a closed loop state - I would guess. The way I understand it the auto-tuner constantly relearns every so many miles... I'm no mechanic... Just passing on what I was told by mechanics. Not saying that auto-tuners are bad or anything (b/c I honestly wouldn't know personally), just passing on the warnings I was given by HD mechanics. I heard that same line from several of them.


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If dealer installs the tuner it does not void the warranty. Any OEM upgade the dealer installs is covered. They will only install a SE Tuner which is understandable. They don't cover aftermarket hardware but will cover the installation work.
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If dealer installs the tuner it does not void the warranty. Any OEM upgade the dealer installs is covered. They will only install a SE Tuner which is understandable. They don't cover aftermarket hardware but will cover the installation work.
Yup! I was also told this by all but 1 dealer. 1 dealer was willing to install an aftermarket tuner for me, and back up their work with HD. But I don't want the unit that they were willing to install. However, if you have the extended warranty and have HD put the aftermarket (and HD) items on your bike within 60days of bike purchase the extended warranty will cover the parts as well. At least, that is what I was told. But HD (not an indy) MUST install and in many cases order the parts for you.


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