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How do I keep this engine from imploding?

I am seeing these threads about engine issues at relatively low miles and am getting nervous about leaving the ultra reliable Japanese drive trains for this Road Glide.

The technician who showed me the bike after purchase said that I should never engine brake with this bike. He said that I should just use the brakes and pull in the clutch lever. This is totally foreign to how I have always ridden. I've never had to change brake pads on any bikes I have owned.

So, what are the rules of riding that will keep this engine going until I get bored with this bike?
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What year of bike are you referring to?
The reason he is telling you not to engine brake is because it can beat the crank up, especially if doing it from a high rpm. It can cause the crank to twist. The earlier tc's (like around 2002) were a bit more beefy in that department.
I think we all engine brake to a certain extent, but it's easier for the tech to tell you not to do it, instead of him taking the time to explain why.
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Just ride it.
For every 1 person that jumps on a forum with untold numbers of problems, there are hundreds of owners out there running
thousands of miles completely oblivious to all the problems that they are supposed to be having.

I'm on my 4th Twin cam engine ranging from 2001 to 2015. Besides all the other "problems" that I've never
had surface, I engine brake as hard and religiously as anyone and have yet to have an issue with a shifted crankshaft.
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Just ride it.
For every 1 person that jumps on a forum with untold numbers of problems, there are hundreds of owners out there running
thousands of miles completely oblivious to all the problems that they are supposed to be having.

I'm on my 4th Twin cam engine ranging from 2001 to 2015. Besides all the other "problems" that I've never
had surface, I engine brake as hard and religiously as anyone and have yet to have an issue with a shifted crankshaft.
Same here with the same outcome. I engine brake all the time coming to a stop. The main thing is to not slam on the brakes at any rpm with out pulling the clutch in and also not dropping the hammer from dead stop at higher rpm. It seems these are the main culprits of twisting a crank. I've redline shifted thru the gears on every bike I've owned with high horsepower motors and never had a problem. You hear stories, but not near as many happen as you would think. That's a big debate over on Harley Tech Talk. The consensus seems to be the same. Don't be an idiot and ride it like you stole it.
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you claim you never changed brake pads on any bike you owned, so based on this info your road glide will stay in the garage a lot to worry about engine braking.
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I've also had a tech tell me that engine breaking to save breaks just caused you to spend more money on tires because it wears out the tires quicker. He said he would rather spend less money on brakes than have to replace tires more frequently. I have to admit that I bit on this for a little while until I thought about why it might do this. Then I thought; doesn't braking put the same amount of friction on the tires against the road to slow the bike down? Hmmmmm...

Have yet to hear anyone else make that claim. I could buy the crank issue but not so sure about wearing out the tires faster unless I saw a conclusive test that proved it.
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I dunno... I've always just ridden the damn thing and fixed it if something broke. I know if I'm riding like an idiot, something could break... I beat on my bike pretty hard, pretty regularly. Much more so than the average joe, and she takes it in stride and keeps right on going.

If something does break, I just consider it finding the weak point and try to find a way to make it better when I fix it... lol
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you claim you never changed brake pads on any bike you owned, so based on this info your road glide will stay in the garage a lot to worry about engine braking.
I average 25,000 miles a year on two wheels. I have not exceeded 55,000 miles on any one bike though. I am always looking for the next bike. I generally part with a bike at around 40,000 miles, but some of the specific purpose bikes are hard to rack up the miles on.

I have never seen the need to race up to a red light and then hit the brakes, or race up to a curve and hit the brakes. I ride 'the pace'.
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I've also had a tech tell me that engine breaking to save breaks just caused you to spend more money on tires because it wears out the tires quicker. He said he would rather spend less money on brakes than have to replace tires more frequently. I have to admit that I bit on this for a little while until I thought about why it might do this. Then I thought; doesn't braking put the same amount of friction on the tires against the road to slow the bike down? Hmmmmm...

Have yet to hear anyone else make that claim. I could buy the crank issue but not so sure about wearing out the tires faster unless I saw a conclusive test that proved it.
The tech told me that the engine could reverse direction or something like that. He also said engine braking wears the clutch plates.
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The tech told me that the engine could reverse direction or something like that. He also said engine braking wears the clutch plates.
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