You could save quite a bit of money by using a '07 up cam plate and conversion cams. Source the cam plate, I sprockets and chains from a salvage yard or eBay. My all in cost was around $500 with new lifters, Andrews 26N cams, Rocker lockers gaskets, etc.
Had not thought about looking at a newer style stock plate and honestly wasn't sure of compatibility. After looking at the Andrews page I am going to price that as an option.
That whole motor needs to come apart. The oil filter is in bypass until the oil warms up, so it's not filtering during cold starts. And since that's not an instant failure, it was most likely started a few times after the oil was collecting trash. So that stuff could be all through the motor. No way you'll ever be able to get it flushed out, too much indirect oiling. And don't forget the oil pan, it'll need scrubbing out too.
Learn something new. I was not aware that the filter was a bypass. Been though a lot of engines just not a lot of Harley engines. One thing that could be a saving grace is this was an all of a sudden let go. We were about 30 minutes down the road and we were side by side at a traffic light so when light turned green we may have had the bikes strung out a bit. (hitting upper RPM range) Not long after that we stopped at another light and that is when the bike did what it did. I still haven't dropped the oil. I am thinking that cutting the filter open and looking at the magnet on the plug is going to tell the big story.
Respectfully have to agree, and disagree. To pull, disassemble, overhaul and reinstall that motor is gonna cost more than the bike is worth. Yeah, that is the "correct" way, but maybe not the right way.
Maybe the right way is to rig a pump to run a flush thru the motor while cranking it, put a camplate and whatever else got messed up in the cam chest in it and run it. It's a gamble, but a good used motor from that era is pretty cheap comparatively.
Dunno, glad it's not my decision.
Yeah I was fooling around with Craiglist and found a 103 with a 6 speed for $2800. Makes me think about a swap. Haha!
Then we have to disagree.
Do you see the sparkle in that oil, that could be all through the motor. And its not bits of plastic, its steel shavings. The oil pan and Timken lefty would worry me the most. Cost for a tear down is a gasket set and a set of rings. Adds at most two days to the job if being done at home.
If you put it back with just a cam chest repair, then you get to spend the next 20K miles wonder if the noises you hear are related to the trash in the oil or just normal twin cam racket.
Hey that is cool I appreciate all the input. Rather I follow or not at least I am getting all the considerations to make the decision. My gut tells me that most of it ended up in the filter but I would also like to pull the oil fill plate and expose the long rectangle hole to the oil tank. Then run a magnet in and see what I pull out. All this will have to happen when I am off my shift. I work 7 on 7 off 12 hour nights. One of the reasons I post at strange times.