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Got a very lightly used one from JayKS a few weeks back , finally changed the primary oil yesterday , and swapped it out with the HD unit ..

First start up got a very noticeable whine , which they say you should expect . It clicks into first instead of clunks into first , shifting is definitely improved and the bike even rides smoother .. Rode a few miles to meet wifey , and on second start up , no whine ..

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Interesting, I have one that's been sitting around for almost 2 years, I started to install it recently when I changed my clutch, but since everything looked fine, I'm still putting it off. Please check in for the next few thousand miles and report how it's working.

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I had mine in over 10 k and all seems good. I will pull the primary cover in a few months for the yearly check up, this will be the second time I had the cover off since I installed the M6.
It did take a few k to lose that whine.

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Interesting, I have one that's been sitting around for almost 2 years, I started to install it recently when I changed my clutch, but since everything looked fine, I'm still putting it off. Please check in for the next few thousand miles and report how it's working.
How about 50,000 miles, or more? I've had one on mine for quite a while. Things are going great. The stock Harley tensioner is a cheap shit piece of crap. It only allows for ratchet adjustments, and only tighter at that.

Here is my before...


Here is my after...


Notice the difference in the slack at the top. The Harley POS can only make things tighter, until it gets too tight. Then it can ruin bearings. The Hayden is spring tensioned, and can allow for less slack in the chain because the springs manage the slack. It also makes the primary quieter, with no chain slapping around inside.

Put it in, put it in now, you will not regret it.

OBTW, that whine is the chain making a groove in the shoe. Nothing to worry about. Once it seats, it is good.
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I've been running mine for about 12k miles and also have one in the wife's fat boy lo for about 8k miles, very happy with both. No problems with either, running redline in the tranny in both and shifting is much smoother, especially in the softail. I still occasionally get the clunk on a shift into first, but rarely. The wife's did have the whine for quite a while, mine only a few hundred miles if that.

If you follow the other forums, the Hayden has got beaten up a lot in the 08 and up touring bikes - a lot of guys felt the chain tension was too tight and one person even had a broken spring. I opened both ours up after 2k and 5k of use because I was paranoid after seeing some of those posts. I was below the recommended 3/8" space on both installs, but the chain didn't feel overly tight at all and wear on the pad wasn't excessive (more on the softail than on mine, but not excessive IMO). Hayden came out with new springs (same strength but shorter length than the original) a few months ago, I presume to address the overtight issue that some are discussing. I called and they gave me two free sets so I installed them and replaced my pads (even though they really didn't need it) while I was doing other winter mods.

Some folks may have had issues, but I think they are a much better solution than the stock unit. Maybe I just got lucky with mine, but very happy with their performance so far.

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The last time I was in my primary I checked my primary chain tension with the Hayden tensioner in and it seemed to be too tight. The Hayden was in for about a year and didn't show much wear but I swapped it out and put the stock HD tensioner back in.
There didn't seem to be any damage to the primary components so I don't think there was any issue using the Hayden and I may put it back in someday.
I didn't use any shims when installing the Hayden because there was no need to but I may give Hayden a call and see if I can get the updated springs.


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I recall hearing Hayden said it was okay to use only one spring before they re manufactured the double spring.

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I recall hearing Hayden said it was okay to use only one spring before they re manufactured the double spring.
I've heard people mention that as well, but didn't think to ask when I contacted them about the new springs and it's not in writing anywhere on their site. From what I remember those that went with only one spring used the bigger one and left the smaller one out. FWIW, I don't know what the HD spec is for chain deflection or exactly how the proper amount of tension is measured, but with the Hayden in I can still easily push the chain down by hand and I don't have any slack in the chain like the pic above with the stock tensioner in.

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Running mine with the double spring for about 40k or so ~ I snapped one of the shoes in half after I installed it ~ but have had no issues with the second shoe which has been in the primary for almost 35k now. Each time I have been in the primary all is well.....

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I've had the Hayden tensioner in for about 8k Mikes without any issues. I'll be pulling the primary cover off in a week or to for a quick inspection for the the season but I'm pretty confident everything will still be good

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