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Ok guys, new here, searched the forums first, now with my questions.

1. I adjusted the clutch as per the video in the sticky post above. I got the cable adjusted with the least mount of play as possible damn near 1/16 of play (I prefer the clutch point out farther and was hoping that would do the trick after the adjustment). After I got all the fluids in I started it up and put it into gear. There is a loud bang.

Now I know it was banging loud when I got the bike. I know that H-Ds are apparently noisy in that department. My problem is I can't tell if it is louder than before or just my imagination. And if it is my imagination, Is that banging doing damage?

I am able to find neutral a bit easier after the adjustment so that is a good thing because it was driving me nuts when I first got the bike.

For the adjustment I did a half turn back not a full turn. Also I am using the H-D primary/tranny oil, not the Syn3 stuff.

As a matter of fact for this first change I used all regular H-D oils non-syn till I can decide what I want to go with. In my old bikes I used Mobile 1 full syth because I could get it locally at any auto zone or Advance auto. Now with the separate tranny fluid and Primary fluid, I need to investigate more since this is the first street bike I have owned that requires those liquids.

2. The filter seemed to be on real tight and the cap filter wrench I bought was having a hard time griping it. I had to Tap it onto the filter with a hammer lightly to seat all the way and then had to really wrench it.

When I put the new one on it was hand tight which wasn't much since there is no room to really grip it good with your hand to tighten it. After start up no visible leaks.

Any tips or tricks. I'm half tempted to find a K&N with a nut on the end of it to make life easier. I could care less about the filter being chrome since I plan on slowly blacking out the bike anyway.

3. Primary fluid, what are you guys using to measure it out? the 2013 calls for 38oz so I poured 1 quart (32os) then used the side of the empty quart and measured 6oz more (half way between the 4 and 8 marker). If it is a hair off either way is it going to cause problems?

Thanks for the help,

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Ok guys, new here, searched the forums first, now with my questions.

1. I adjusted the clutch as per the video in the sticky post above. I got the cable adjusted with the least mount of play as possible damn near 1/16 of play (I prefer the clutch point out farther and was hoping that would do the trick after the adjustment). After I got all the fluids in I started it up and put it into gear. There is a loud bang.

Try holding the clutch in for 3-4 seconds before putting her in gear and the bang will not be quite as bad. Also, if you changed the trans fluid and refilled with the HD+ Formula, I would suggest using either Redline Shock Proof or Spectro Full Synthetic in the Trans. The HD+ Formula works well in the Primary but the other 2 mentioned will make a huge difference in the trans. Another thing to make sure of is to adjust the clutch on a completely cold bike.

Now I know it was banging loud when I got the bike. I know that H-Ds are apparently noisy in that department. My problem is I can't tell if it is louder than before or just my imagination. And if it is my imagination, Is that banging doing damage?

I am able to find neutral a bit easier after the adjustment so that is a good thing because it was driving me nuts when I first got the bike.

For the adjustment I did a half turn back not a full turn. Also I am using the H-D primary/tranny oil, not the Syn3 stuff.

As a matter of fact for this first change I used all regular H-D oils non-syn till I can decide what I want to go with. In my old bikes I used Mobile 1 full syth because I could get it locally at any auto zone or Advance auto. Now with the separate tranny fluid and Primary fluid, I need to investigate more since this is the first street bike I have owned that requires those liquids.

2. The filter seemed to be on real tight and the cap filter wrench I bought was having a hard time griping it. I had to Tap it onto the filter with a hammer lightly to seat all the way and then had to really wrench it.

THe HD End Cap Wrench makes changing the filter an easy job - http://www.harley-davidson.com/store...-filter-wrench

When I put the new one on it was hand tight which wasn't much since there is no room to really grip it good with your hand to tighten it. After start up no visible leaks.

Any tips or tricks. I'm half tempted to find a K&N with a nut on the end of it to make life easier. I could care less about the filter being chrome since I plan on slowly blacking out the bike anyway.

3. Primary fluid, what are you guys using to measure it out? the 2013 calls for 38oz so I poured 1 quart (32os) then used the side of the empty quart and measured 6oz more (half way between the 4 and 8 marker). If it is a hair off either way is it going to cause problems?

A tad to little is better than a tad to much. I would suggest filling the primary with the bike in the straight up position until the fluid just contacts the bottom of the clutch basket. Mine usually takes only an oz. or so more than a full quart.

Thanks for the help,

Mike
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Thanks TripleJ,

I did adjust the clutch when the bike was completely cold.

The End Cap Filter wrench is 15 "whatever they call those flat spots" and I counted the Harley one and it is 15. I also took the new filter when I went to buy it and it fit nice and snug. What is the difference in the Harley one other than a marked up price?

I under shot the 6oz mark on purpose so I know it wasn't over. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to be a major issue. I know there are multiple opinions on this, need more piece of mind if anything.

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Thanks TripleJ,

I did adjust the clutch when the bike was completely cold.

The End Cap Filter wrench is 15 "whatever they call those flat spots" and I counted the Harley one and it is 15. I also took the new filter when I went to buy it and it fit nice and snug. What is the difference in the Harley one other than a marked up price?

I under shot the 6oz mark on purpose so I know it wasn't over. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to be a major issue. I know there are multiple opinions on this, need more piece of mind if anything.

-Mike
The HD tool is only $9.95, for HD not to bad. It has a notch in it to help keep from messing up the sensor on the front of the engine right in front of the oil filter.


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The HD tool is only $9.95, for HD not to bad. It has a notch in it to help keep from messing up the sensor on the front of the engine right in front of the oil filter.
I agree. Its worth the price and probably one of two tools I actually bought from HD.

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+1 on the Redline Tranny Fluid.
I went w/ Mobile 1 this go round mainly because I got it on sale (9.99 per I think) at Advanced. Not all carry-but can order the K&N you need either in Chrome or Black. Look up your # needed off the K&N site.

It's the way I went mainly because I live in an extremely rural area.....30 min to Advanced or almost 2 hrs. to a HD dealer........

Primary level- Triple J gave you very good advice on that one.


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I use HD SN3 in the primary due to it dont heat up as much as primary fluid. I use Red line Shock proof gear oil in the trans. Ony reason I didn't use Redline in the primary is they didn't have it in stock when I ordered my Shock proof gear oil.
Mobil 1 V twinn 2050 in the engine. I just been using Mobil 1 for a long time with great success , so I figured why change, plus it's available everywhere. Red line, and Amsoil are also great choices too for all three holes.

Like others have said , a little less is better than a little more in the primary.

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After starting the bike, pull in the clutch lever a few times then drop it into first. That frees up everything. As for cooler running oil in the primary, most of the heat is transmitted through the engine case to the inner primary, then dissipated through the entire primary. Not from friction. I ran ATF in my primary on my shovelhead. No issues ever. Yes the shovel never ran as hot as the twin cam. That is why I use formula plus. Molecular shearing and friction not being critical in the primary, I feel the formula plus is adequate.


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