did a 500 mile ride with an old buddy and his two friends today. We did about 500 miles of playing around and I gotta they are nice bikes. stock they trounce my RGU with SE 254 cams and supertrapp 2.1 and even tho I get excellent mpg they got better mpg. I was more familar with the roads we went on so they were not as aggressive in the twisties and would lag behind but on the straights they sure have good accelleration. One of the guys had a new cross roads and he did complain about the poor wind management and said that the shield was causing him to see triple it was creating such and updraft behind the shield. The other two did not complain. My buddy did say that you have to replace the drive belt every 40,000 miles but it is a simple procedure not a major headache on the road like on a harley. He said when they travel they carry a spare just in case. the guy with the cross roads model was black like my RGU but it did appear to have a better paint finish altho I did not care for how some of the little trim pieces were as they looked cheaply done. I know many will say "gee why not get one if you like them so much" Not likely I will be getting one because I love harleys and mine is paid for but I was impressed and wish harley would come stock with the giddy up of the new Victorys.