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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-15-2018, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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Question 2015 RGU CVO vs 2019 RGU

I am sitting here bikeless. I sold my Victory with the intention of buying the new 2019 RGU (scorched Orange/Denim Black) that comes with the stock 117. Of course I was likely to upgrade the engine to either a stage 2 or stage 3... But the dealerships can't even order the 2019 RGU for me. Something crazy about the custom colors aren't even able to be ordered. Some dealerships will just get random special models sent to them. So at best I probably wouldn't be able to even get/ride a new 2019 until March or April (since I live in Michigan)...

Also, I had to temporarily cancel a bike trip to Bike, Blues and BBQ in AR at the end of the month because I don't currently have a bike. I'm kinda getting bike fever (it's kinda like cabin fever but that huge itch to ride since I don't currently have a bike)...

So I started looking around on cycletrader to see if there are any other nice orange and black road glides... Well the only one that I am interested in is the orange and black 2015 CVO Road Glide Ultra. The 3 I found have 3k, 5k, and 7k miles and are all in the $25k-ish range. So some people just dropped over $40k on these a few years ago and now I could pick one up for about $10k less than the new 2019 RGU that I've been considering (because I'd need to put nothing in the 2015 CVOs off the bat). In fact one of the 2015s has the extended warranty / service plan through 2021... and they all come with the screamin eagle 110ci....

I'm wondering.. am I just 'settling' for a 2015, or am I really getting as good of deal as I think I'm getting if I decide to pick up a 2015 CVO RGU and ride that for a couple years? I feel like if the 2019 was available, I'd order it for $10k more, but the 2015 CVO RGU still looks pretty f--kin sweet and would likely hold it's value pretty well for a couple years...

If you had to choose, would you get the 2015? Or would you try to be patient and wait for a 2019?

All thoughts are welcome. I won't get offended... lol ... lay it on me!

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I own a 2016 CVO RGU and wish I had waited one more year to buy.
If it were me I would call around and find the one you REALLY want and then figure out how to get it home, thereís still time to ride.




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I own a 15 CVORGU and LOVE it. But Iíve had some issues w my 110 (moco very graciously gave me a new long block a couple months ago - 23k on the bike) and the new M8ís are definitely a smoother motor.

I think you hit the nail on the head w the $$$ savings. I bought mine used instead of a new 18 and have been very happy. Iím surprised how much Iíve enjoyed all the CVO doodads that I didnít need & never would have paid for. Didnít think my butt and a CVO would ever meet : ). Now Iím debating should I think about a 19RGU for engine reliability but then think Iíll watch the new ones for a while and see how they go. If my new engine holds together Iíll be happy for a loooong time.

Great question - Iíll be watching this thread!


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I own a 2016 CVO RGU and wish I had waited one more year to buy.
If it were me I would call around and find the one you REALLY want and then figure out how to get it home, there’s still time to ride.
The 2019 does seem to be the one I want, but it's not available anywhere nationwide. And there's no telling when it could become available. On the other hand I could snag that 2015 CVO RGU and ride. It would probably hold it's value well enough to easily resell or trade-in next year or the year after. One of them has a warranty through 2021 (in case I fall in love with it)...

I guess I'm a geek... overthinking the sh** out of this. lol

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I own a 15 CVORGU and LOVE it. But I’ve had some issues w my 110 (moco very graciously gave me a new long block a couple months ago - 23k on the bike) and the new M8’s are definitely a smoother motor.

I think you hit the nail on the head w the $$$ savings. I bought mine used instead of a new 18 and have been very happy. I’m surprised how much I’ve enjoyed all the CVO doodads that I didn’t need & never would have paid for. Didn’t think my butt and a CVO would ever meet : ). Now I’m debating should I think about a 19RGU for engine reliability but then think I’ll watch the new ones for a while and see how they go. If my new engine holds together I’ll be happy for a loooong time.

Great question - I’ll be watching this thread!
That's the other thing. It would cost far less for the 2015 CVO RGU...

From stories I heard, I'm not so sure the M8 is that much more reliable. Some people on here have had engine issues. Youtuber, Adam Sandoval, with all SE-only upgrades blew his M8 engine and has to get a new one... So either way I consider it a MUST to get the extended warranty. Luckily one of 2015 CVO RGUs I'm looking at also has the extended service plan through 2021 (another reason I'm considering that).
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You live in MI, you have about one more month of riding, maybe 1.5 (I know it was high 80ís yesterday but thatís not normal). If it were me, Iíd take my time and get what you want, not whatís convenient.


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Personally, I won't buy a M8 until they straighten out the engine and transmission issues. That goes double for a questionable paint job. Way too expensive to put up with that [email protected] from Harley Davidson. The paint on my used 09 Orange Mirage Pearl RG peeled off the fenders. The front was so corroded under the paint that it had to be replaced. It was out of warranty and I was the 2nd owner, so Harley refused to take responsibility. Think carefully before committing to a potential problematic purchase.
Personally, I'd look for a Rushmore 103HO and wait for Harley to figure out their problems. I replaced the lifters and pushrods and I'm good to go. My 103HO is quiet, smooth, and gets out of it's own way with a Stage 1. My $0.02 only.
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I am sitting here bikeless. I sold my Victory with the intention of buying the new 2019 RGU (scorched Orange/Denim Black) that comes with the stock 117.


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This might help with your decision: The 19 RGU comes with a stock 114 not a 117.

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I own a '15 FLTRUSE Autumn Sunset/Carbon Dust, similar to that you are considering. Of the FLTUSE's I like this color better than the other options and see it a whole lot less than the red or gray colored bikes. I love my bike, and would NOT consider switching it for a new M8 CVO (or not-CVO) for these reasons:

1) Don't think the M8 has proven itself to be a reliable engine
2) Not fond of the new color schemes and lack of chrome. (Don't get me wrong, some are in love with the gunship gray from last year and some think the new colors are awesome. I think they are boring and HD should hire a new color team).
3) My 110 with a TTS100 cam, TTS tuner, FM 2-1-2 header and Fullsac cores and tune by Doc (cost approx $2,000 extra) has similar performance to the stock 117 and great low end torque (thanks to the cam and fullsac cores)
4) I bought the '15 with pre-owned from a dealer after it took the typical initial depreciation hit and could probably get close to what I paid for it, should I re-sell it right now.
5) Cant buy a CVO RGU, so I'd have to get a RG and then add the tourpack, etc (not sure how that would work with the remote control locking system)

Now for the "counterpoint":
1) My 110 did self destruct at approx 42,000K. Fortunately, I had an ESP and the motor has been replaced. When the new engine was installed, the lifters were swapped for S&S premiums. I would recommend anyone with a 110 to consider doing this! On the other hand, I've read about quite a few M8's that have been replaced due to sumping issues, so who knows)
2) Doesn't have the latest touch-screen radio. Not sure what that means to me in terms of value....
3) Suspension changes on the new bike, supposedly improve over the '15. But again, not sure it's all that much better. You'd have to speak with a buddy of mine that just scrapped his 18 suspension and re-did it with Ohins.

These are just my thoughts and opinions. I'm sure there will be many who feel otherwise. Good luck with your search and no matter which one you get, I'd suggest the extended wty or ESP on any of these bikes.
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I own the 2015 CVO Road Glide Ultra you describe. Itís a comfortable bike, but the 110 engine (at least the 2015 model) has a history of lifter failure, so an extended warranty is recommended. I just turned 24K and havenít had any mechanical issues. The paint is soft and prone to showing blemishes, especially on the gas tank where your knees frequently rub.

Would I do another CVO? Probably not, I only need about half the gadgets it offers. If I were in your shoes, I would buy a non-CVO for the transition bike, as there is a surplus of those available that can be bought right. Then wait to buy the bike you really want!
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