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Black Widow is our sister store. Got the Expo going on up here at the new property for Barracuda this weekend. Today's the last day. I stopped in last night for a while after work. Its pretty damned cool. Good food, wide variety of vendors. Great bikes and great people. Gimme a shout if ya get up this way.
So is Burt's Barracuda moving to a new location? I've never been to their current place. It's actually in St. Pete isn't it?

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So is Burt's Barracuda moving to a new location? I've never been to their current place. It's actually in St. Pete isn't it?
Currently at 54th and 28th in St. Pete. Moving to a new 10 acre property on 49th across the street from Quaker Steak & Lube. Burt says we'll be moved in by August. Early design pics I've seen look amazing. It's gonna be something to see. Majority of it is already paved, and Burt has his water tower up. Gonna be badass.

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Upper level management is too disconnected from everyday life to even remotely understand what the average motorcyclist wants. It’s akin to Trump thinking you need ID to buy groceries or Paul McCartney sending someone for a bottle of booze with 3 dollars.
Money saving idea for Harley- fire the CEO and institute a lottery. Pick 3 employees at random, double their pay, and put them in charge of design, customer relations, and CEO. It might not get any better, but it probably can’t get much worse, and the salary savings of firing Levitich would cover 2/3 of that silly EPA fine.

Or send a headhunter over to FCA and snatch up somebody out of the SRT program. A Hellcat or SRT 392 is roughly $100/hp, so I’ll take a CVO with a turbo 124” for $20k. No need for the ESP thanks, the 5yr/60k powertrain warranty will be fine.
Loving my 2019 Ram Limited. FCA is a great example of a company listening to their customers. Their sales have steadily increased because of that fact. Hell they even brought back the CD player in my truck because enough people they surveyed bitched about not having one instead of saying oh well get with the times. Harley seems to be alienating their base while trying to get millennials on board. They just aren't interested in machines like older generations were. Many don't even rush out to get their license asap.

Since we're all venting I hate that Harley charges ridiculous prices for their clothes and they're made in China. I wouldn't mind paying $35-$40 for a t-shirt if it were made in the USA. I wish the Bar and Shield was synonymous with made in the USA so when people saw that shirt or jacket they knew you helped support an american work force not a sweatshop in Asia.

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Speaking of "Made in the USA" .......I came across this in a financial news article a while back. HD, and other US motorcycle manufacturers are very fortunate that the Gov. doesn't require them to report exactly where the components come from. If you look at a new car that touts that it's "Made in America" in the past several years, you'll actually see the exact % of parts made in USA on the window sticker. For example, Honda cars that are assembled in the US actually have a higher US part % (81%) than do many GMs and Fords. Here's a chunk of that article I referred to:


"As for Harley-Davidson motorcycles, they may be considered classic Americana, but the components of the bikes themselves come from many places outside the U.S., just like in the auto industry.

Harleys sold in the U.S. are indeed assembled in one of four plants located in Wisconsin, Missouri and Pennsylvania. But the brakes and clutch are imported from Italy, the engine pistons are made in Austria, the bike suspension comes from Japan, and other electronic components originate in Mexico and China."

Industry experts place the actual "Made in USA" content for HD at 60-71%, though only HD knows for sure what that percentage really is. For example, if you disassembled an RG down to each of the individual parts and pieces, and calculated the Country of Origin for each individual piece, it would be stunning to many that their "Made in USA HD might actually only be comprised of 40% foreign parts. Not dumping on HD here, just saying that it'll be a sad day for them if/when the Feds mandate the same country of origin info on bikes that they do on cars/light trucks. In the new Global economy, nothing is as it first appears when it comes to "where were the parts manufactured?"

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Speaking of "Made in the USA" .......I came across this in a financial news article a while back. HD, and other US motorcycle manufacturers are very fortunate that the Gov. doesn't require them to report exactly where the components come from. If you look at a new car that touts that it's "Made in America" in the past several years, you'll actually see the exact % of parts made in USA on the window sticker. For example, Honda cars that are assembled in the US actually have a higher US part % (81%) than do many GMs and Fords. Here's a chunk of that article I referred to:


"As for Harley-Davidson motorcycles, they may be considered classic Americana, but the components of the bikes themselves come from many places outside the U.S., just like in the auto industry.

Harleys sold in the U.S. are indeed assembled in one of four plants located in Wisconsin, Missouri and Pennsylvania. But the brakes and clutch are imported from Italy, the engine pistons are made in Austria, the bike suspension comes from Japan, and other electronic components originate in Mexico and China."

Industry experts place the actual "Made in USA" content for HD at 60-71%, though only HD knows for sure what that percentage really is. For example, if you disassembled an RG down to each of the individual parts and pieces, and calculated the Country of Origin for each individual piece, it would be stunning to many that their "Made in USA HD might actually only be comprised of 40% foreign parts. Not dumping on HD here, just saying that it'll be a sad day for them if/when the Feds mandate the same country of origin info on bikes that they do on cars/light trucks. In the new Global economy, nothing is as it first appears when it comes to "where were the parts manufactured?"
Indians aren't any better. In reading their 2018 4th quarter results they where saying that they get 15% directly from China suppliers and that the US suppliers 75% use Chinese parts.

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Black Widow is our sister store. Got the Expo going on up here at the new property for Barracuda this weekend. Today's the last day. I stopped in last night for a while after work. Its pretty damned cool. Good food, wide variety of vendors. Great bikes and great people. Gimme a shout if ya get up this way.

Just out of curiosity, Is Barracuda the old Jims in St Pete? Bought my first new HD at Jims. It was a small dealership with a beer n shot place in front called the Silver Dollar Saloon (IIRC) with dirt floors.....LOL
Ran with a barmaid from there for awhile....good times and better memories

Orginally from Tampa and that dealership was owned by the Barnes family. (I won't go into that) That's the reason I drove to St Pete. Fletchers in Clearwater was good people and was my next stop, but Jims was motivated to sell bikes

btw....my 1980 Sturgis was $5200 out the door, tax, title, t shirt & helmet

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Just out of curiosity, Is Barracuda the old Jims in St Pete? Bought my first new HD at Jims. It was a small dealership with a beer n shot place in front called the Silver Dollar Saloon (IIRC) with dirt floors.....LOL
Ran with a barmaid from there for awhile....good times and better memories

Orginally from Tampa and that dealership was owned by the Barnes family. (I won't go into that) That's the reason I drove to St Pete. Fletchers in Clearwater was good people and was my next stop, but Jims was motivated to sell bikes

btw....my 1980 Sturgis was $5200 out the door, tax, title, t shirt & helmet
Yes, it was the Jim’s place before being purchased by Bert.
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Just out of curiosity, Is Barracuda the old Jims in St Pete? Bought my first new HD at Jims. It was a small dealership with a beer n shot place in front called the Silver Dollar Saloon (IIRC) with dirt floors.....LOL
Ran with a barmaid from there for awhile....good times and better memories

Orginally from Tampa and that dealership was owned by the Barnes family. (I won't go into that) That's the reason I drove to St Pete. Fletchers in Clearwater was good people and was my next stop, but Jims was motivated to sell bikes

btw....my 1980 Sturgis was $5200 out the door, tax, title, t shirt & helmet
Yes Sir it is. Construction going up like crazy at the new lot. Gonna be a monster.
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Bruce00, Barnes in Tampa brings back memories. I wouldn’t buy a bike from Scott or PJ . I bought my bikes from Fletcher’s in Clearwater but would go to Barnes for service. Ronnie Barnes was nothing like his brother and ran a great service department. I had an electrical issue with my Road King, 3 dealers couldn’t figure it out. I took it to Ronnie and he said give me a few days. He figured it out, came up with a solution and I never had the issue again.


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