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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-05-2019, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Well, Damn!

Got to work on Monday, a couple of weeks ago and the bike was making a God-Awful racket. Parked it an it was puking oil everywhere.

I got it towed home that night and started working on it. Turns out the lock plate on the drive pulley came apart and a piece got lodged between the drive pulley and the Inner Primary. It just sat there and spun until it machined out a nice circular piece of the inner primary.
As you can see by the photos, it wasn't a fun thing.

Well, I've got it all back together, but now I've run into a different issue. I can't get the clutch to adjust properly. It's either too mushy and slips or it's so tight that it locks up and kills the engine when I put it in gear.

I have gotten it to the closest thing to a happy median as I can get and it is still super tight at idle, but slips if I gas it.


HELP!!

I made sure I put the clutch plates/steels back in in the same order they came out.
I am running 32oz of 20W/50 oil in the primary.
If the bike is on the side stand, it just leaks out the derby cover when it's off
I think the problem is in the adjustment of the 6 bolts on the retainer plate for the clutch.
When I adjust them to 85 in/lbs, the SE Clutch spring it fully collapsed and locks up the clutch, you cannot even pull the handle.
If I back them off to where there is some play in the handle, then it is too soft and slips.
I have adjusted both the pushrod and the cable adjustments, still nothing I would want to ride.
I'm fairly mechanically minded, but this one has got me stumped.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-06-2019, 08:01 AM
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Assuming you cleaned the friction plates for the clutch, did you soak them with oil before re-assembly? Spacer missing for the clutch basket? Primary chain nice and straight with the sprockets inline? Sure the inner primary is the right p/n? Just throwing things out there. Let us know what you find.


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Got to work on Monday, a couple of weeks ago and the bike was making a God-Awful racket. Parked it an it was puking oil everywhere.

I got it towed home that night and started working on it. Turns out the lock plate on the drive pulley came apart and a piece got lodged between the drive pulley and the Inner Primary. It just sat there and spun until it machined out a nice circular piece of the inner primary.
As you can see by the photos, it wasn't a fun thing.

Well, I've got it all back together, but now I've run into a different issue. I can't get the clutch to adjust properly. It's either too mushy and slips or it's so tight that it locks up and kills the engine when I put it in gear.

I have gotten it to the closest thing to a happy median as I can get and it is still super tight at idle, but slips if I gas it.


HELP!!

I made sure I put the clutch plates/steels back in in the same order they came out.
I am running 32oz of 20W/50 oil in the primary.
If the bike is on the side stand, it just leaks out the derby cover when it's off
I think the problem is in the adjustment of the 6 bolts on the retainer plate for the clutch.
When I adjust them to 85 in/lbs, the SE Clutch spring it fully collapsed and locks up the clutch, you cannot even pull the handle.
If I back them off to where there is some play in the handle, then it is too soft and slips.
I have adjusted both the pushrod and the cable adjustments, still nothing I would want to ride.
I'm fairly mechanically minded, but this one has got me stumped.
Sounds like you need to re-visit your clutch pack. The SE spring should not bottom out when you torque the 6 small bolts down, so it sounds like the clutch pack is not all the way back in the drum and sticking out to far past the clutch drum somehow. Another thing is, your primary oil should not be coming out the derby cover on the side stand. I have a 2013 and it takes 38oz when you remove the cover to service the primary. If i remove the inner primary to do a service, like the inner primary bearing, it says use 45oz primary oil. I hope you get her fixed up.
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Stick, I am happy to fund this fix for you...............and only require your Chopper in Exchange

No need to thank me........we're family here amigo

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Stick, I am happy to fund this fix for you...............and only require your Chopper in Exchange

No need to thank me........we're family here amigo
LOL!!!

Nice try Eddie!
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OK, Tore into it today with a buddy that is a Certified HD Tech.
We found the Pressure Plate was installed backwards. I feel stupid now.
Bike is back up and running and good to go.


And I didn't even need to trade my Chopper to Eddie to get the Road Glide running!!!
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OK, Tore into it today with a buddy that is a Certified HD Tech.

We found the Pressure Plate was installed backwards. I feel stupid now.

Bike is back up and running and good to go.





And I didn't even need to trade my Chopper to Eddie to get the Road Glide running!!!


Glad You got it all figured out and running Bro!
You owe your Buddy Big Time.
Nice having a Certified Harley Tech as a friend.
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You owe your Buddy Big Time.
Nice having a Certified Harley Tech as a friend.
It's a Brotherhood thing.
I've helped him, he's helped me, we've both helped our other Club Brothers.
It's what we do.
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And I didn't even need to trade my Chopper to Eddie to get the Road Glide running!!!
The Song may have ended.......but this dance is FARRRR from over

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