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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-27-2015, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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103 with woods 777 map needed

I have a 13 custom. Stock motor with woods 777 cams, d&d fatcat,se air cleaner. Have power commander v tuner with map that Keith at fuel moto sent. Bike has hesitation/sputtering when rolling on throttle. Seems fine cruising and upper rpm range. Sent them an email with what bike is doing. Anyone have a map from bike with same set up that I can try?

If I get something close I'd probably leave for this year since don't want to dyno it because will be going bigger motor over winter.
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Call Dobeck Performance and ask for Dillon. He is the R&D for them and I'm sure he will help you out with a map or a download. Great people


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103 with woods 777 map needed

If you have a tuner map dialed in for Harleys 211 Cams it will run the 777 Woods cam quite well
I changed from a 211 to 777
And was amazed how close it was for timing
Plus it ran a lot better than the 211


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I tell you what. I am having the TW-777 cams put in this week. My dealer doesn't have a dyno. So I need a close map until I get mine dyno'd at another shop. My dyno appt. is Sept. 18th. They are very reputable in the twin cities. So if you send me the map you have for your bike now, I will send you my map when I get it.

However, we have different exhaust. I have the V&H power duels with CFR slip-ons. I also have the SE ventilator air cleaner.

Should still be close. Let me know what you think.

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The TW 777 cams are for engine builds that produce higher compression than the stock engine can provide. The 777 cam is not a low end torque cam and you need to run the bike over the 3000 rpm range to get the cam to perform. For a stock engine with a stage 1 upgrade the TW 222 or the TW 555 is a much better cam option.


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103 with woods 777 map needed

I agree, I have the 777 with a stock heads in a 103. JmO.


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I guess I would agree and disagree with the comments about the 777 cams only for high compression engines or builds. If you look at Fuelmoto's website and also Woods performance website, as well as many others who have the cams with stock engines, they perform very well. The TQ curve starts as fast as the 555 and die off at about the same point. They are very low and mid range TQ cams and not high rpm cams. They are basically a hopped up 555. I think a lot of it has to do with the pipes and the tune. If the pipes and the tune are bad, they will not perform as advertised just as others wouldn't. I understand I have the CFR exhaust and am giving up some low end TQ, but that's fine with me for the trade off on sound. Anyway, everyone has an opinion, I have heard from many people that have the 777 cams that they love them.

Also, they set you up for later if you ever wanted to do some more engine work like compression or larger cubes, heads, etc.

I guess I will find out for myself next week too. Can't wait.


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The TQ curve starts as fast as the 555 and die off at about the same point. They are very low and mid range TQ cams and not high rpm cams. They are basically a hopped up 555. I think a lot of it has to do with the pipes and the tune.
Also, they set you up for later if you ever wanted to do some more engine work like compression or larger cubes, heads, etc.

I guess I will find out for myself next week too. Can't wait.


Just because the 777 cam is an improvement in power over the stock cam doesn't mean you're going to make the best power for you build. You should match your cam for your build, if you're planning on an bore kit, ported heads, higher comp pistons in the near future I can see you're point on running this cam. If not I'd say pick a cam for suitable for your engine/intake/exhaust combo, and yes the 777 and 555 have near identical numbers when bolted into a stock motor but the 777 will feel "lazy" compared to the 555 while riding.

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As I've said before, the best over all cam for a drop in on the new 103 Rushmore engines is the Andrews 57H. It makes great power, should put you at close to 99-100 hp and about 115 torque without messing with the motor what so ever. I know, I did it. With mild headwork only and a tighter squish and mild port, no problem getting the hp bumped up to 105 and the torque to 119 or so. While the 555 and the 777 is a good cam, both seem to work better on built engines than a stock engine. I have a 555 in a 10.5-1 built engine and does really good riding two up. That is what I was search for with that engine. Now that I have used the 57H on a stock Rushmore 103 at a cost to me of $237 and me installing, no question it is the best bang for the buck.
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