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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-23-2019, 08:00 AM Thread Starter
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So, I have a bachelor party/skeet shoot/pheasant hunt coming up in a few weeks. Don’t have an O/U in collection right now, and this is the perfect excuse to add one.

Even though I still take my morning piss standing up, can’t decide between 12 or 20 based on the fact that I have nieces and nephews that will be hunting next decade, and I think a 20ga double would be a better starter than my 12ga pump.

My last name isn’t Rockefeller, so I’m looking to be under $1000.

Should I look for a used Weatherby Orion, new Stevens 555, new CZ, or something else?

Any brand I should avoid st all costs, and why?


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Under a grand really limits what you can get as far as new goes.

Stoeger Condor's are decent and under $500.

Buy a 12 bore, you can always get some light recoil 3/4 oz shells for the kids.
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Shouldered a Stoeger today, too much cast for a southpaw. Decent fit and finish, nice furniture for the money, but it didn’t fit.

The only gun that really grabbed my attention under $1500 was the Weatherby Orion. Jeweled block, shiny walnut, mirror blue everything. Picked it up and the gold script was flawed and the trigger was “meh”.

Looked at and swung Stoeger, Stevens 555, SKB, Browning Cynergy, CZ Drake, and the sales guy hands me an ATI (Kofs). Nice fit and finish, decent selectable trigger, alloy receiver. Wasn’t sold on the alloy, but it’s noticeably lighter, and probably would be better for field carry.

Laid my favorites on the counter (the ATI and Weatherby) and told the sales guy to talk me into the $900 Weatherby. He said he couldn’t, and sent me home with the ATI.

I went with a 12, 14.5 LOP would be too big for a youth shooter anyway.


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Shouldered a Stoeger today, too much cast for a southpaw. Decent fit and finish, nice furniture for the money, but it didnít fit.

The only gun that really grabbed my attention under $1500 was the Weatherby Orion. Jeweled block, shiny walnut, mirror blue everything. Picked it up and the gold script was flawed and the trigger was ďmehĒ.

Looked at and swung Stoeger, Stevens 555, SKB, Browning Cynergy, CZ Drake, and the sales guy hands me an ATI (Kofs). Nice fit and finish, decent selectable trigger, alloy receiver. Wasnít sold on the alloy, but itís noticeably lighter, and probably would be better for field carry.

Laid my favorites on the counter (the ATI and Weatherby) and told the sales guy to talk me into the $900 Weatherby. He said he couldnít, and sent me home with the ATI.

I went with a 12, 14.5 LOP would be too big for a youth shooter anyway.
Field report please.
How does it feel at the range?
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Can't give any input on what brand and model gun to buy now days because my newest shotgun that I own is 35yrs old and they get even older from there. Haven't had the urge to go look at the new stuff but maybe I will soon. As far as 12ga or 20ga I love the 20ga, especially for youth, and have been partial to it for years. I have several 12ga guns but I always migrate to my Remington 870 pump 20ga. It is a very nice gun and I love shooting it. I suppose I would even like a 12ga in this model too and that may be more of the reason than what gauge it is. I also like to shoot my dads old Remington Sweet 16ga form the 1960's that is still in mint condition but I have to search for ammo for that one. The 20ga is just a good middle of the road shell to shoot.

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Field report please.
How does it feel at the range?
Iíll post back in 2 weeks. My gut says even with 7/8 or 1oz itís going to be a mule, and Iíll leave 1 1/8 for the 870.


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back in 1996, I bought a Beretta whitewing 12ga o/u for my dad as a christmas gift for my dad. He was an avid dove hunter and had always wanted an o/u, but could never afford one. After I got my Captain's license (towboats) I bought him the most expensive gun that I could afford, $1200. It is a damn fine gun and a joy to shoot.

A year or two ago, my dad gave it back to me, saying that he was too old to use it and felt I should have it.

I know that this doesn't help answer your question but, your asking about O/Us kinda hit me in the feels and made me want to share that.
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Can't give any input on what brand and model gun to buy now days because my newest shotgun that I own is 35yrs old and they get even older from there. Haven't had the urge to go look at the new stuff but maybe I will soon. As far as 12ga or 20ga I love the 20ga, especially for youth, and have been partial to it for years. I have several 12ga guns but I always migrate to my Remington 870 pump 20ga. It is a very nice gun and I love shooting it. I suppose I would even like a 12ga in this model too and that may be more of the reason than what gauge it is. I also like to shoot my dads old Remington Sweet 16ga form the 1960's that is still in mint condition but I have to search for ammo for that one. The 20ga is just a good middle of the road shell to shoot.
Picked up a 870 super mag several years ago. Not a show gun, but a great shooter.
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Kind of off topic just a little.............

While I personally prefer to buy firearms manufactured in the good old USA, I spent 3 years doing quality and engineering work for an American company that was importing various types of firearms from a couple different manufacturers in Turkey. I'll confess, I was really skeptical as I boarded the plane for the long flight to Istanbul and then later on to Izmir. Personal bias aside, I tried to keep an open mind as I walked into the first plant. However I discovered that my skepticism was entirely unfounded. Same thing at the second manufacturer. The Turks are capable of producing some fine firearms and seem especially adept with their shotguns.

Back on topic - congrats on the new O/U. I've got one on my wish list as well. I hunted upland birds for years with a vintage (1966) Stevens 311C side by side that belonged to my granddad. I finally had to retire it when the original firing pin on the left side wore out. Then I started pheasant hunting with a Remington 870 pump. It's a serviceable weapon, heavier than the Stevens but not as heavy as a semi-auto, but for the world of me never got as many birds as I downed with my old Stevens. I really need to get the Stevens over to the gunsmith and see if he can't rebuild it for me.

In the meantime I've been passively looking for another SS or OU that I might love to own so I look forward to your feedback on the new shotgun.
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Picked up a 870 super mag several years ago. Not a show gun, but a great shooter.
I have 2 Wingmasters, one a Magnum. Love them both and can’t say a bad word about them.

Wevvspot, get your piggy bank out for an American O/U..... AFAIK, you have your choice of a Ruger Red Label in the entry level, or Kolar in the “eff you money” category. The only thing that would wrench my guts more than dropping my bike would be dropping a $10k gun.


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