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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-15-2012, 11:39 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry if this post is in the wrong place.

I bought our New 2012 RGU last Feb. and have almost 4000 miles on it. I'm only 5'8'' and can now plant both feet on the ground but every once in a while, I have problem's with balance while coming to a stop.(Almost dropped it today at a stop on a weird hill) I also alway's ride two up with my Wife.

I've read how alot of Guy's will lower the front and rear end of their bike's. I'm concerned with how the kickstand is after these mods are done. I like to keep my side stand down for added security while my Wife get's on the bike but notice having to lean to the right a bit for the kickstand to clear the ground to go in place. If the front and back end is lower,this will make the bike stand straighter up on the side stand,won't it ?

I was thinking of maybe getting a New seat or having my stock seat altered to gain some lower seat height for both my Wife and I. Although, I don't want to change my riding position forward or back and certainly don't want to lose any comfort.

Am I asking the impossible or over thinking all this. Any Help would be appreciated. Thank's to everyone in the Shark Tank.

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2012, 12:29 AM
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The cheapest way to lower the rear is with lowering blocks which can lower up to 2". You can find them all over for less than $100. Some like some dont. I have 1" lowering blocks and ive never had a problem. There are several more expensive ways to lower it using shorter shocks, a different seat or both. Those are probably the best way to go but will run you a few hundy at the very least for each you choose. Search around the suspension section here, im sure youll find the answers you seek

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I would try modding your seat first. A number of folks have used Mean City Cycles for this with good results. I had mine done by a local upholsterer. Since you already can plant both feet, it may be all you need.

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My 2011 RGU is lowered 2 inches in the front with monotubes and 1 inch in the back with 940's. After about a month I installed a 1 inch shorter jiffy stand because the bike was too straight up when on the stand. Couple of times it all most fell over when on a little incline, not it's fine now with the shorter jiffy. I did the lowering since I have a 30 inch inseam and felt a little unsure when planting my left foot when stopping. Now all is good.

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Thank you for the replies.

I'm thinking I will first try a New seat or have the stock seat reworked . If I could lower the passenger and my seat by an inch, that should be enough to help me . I would be able to get on and off the bike easier . Plus lower the center of gravity making the bike more manueverable while stopping or when it's stopped.

Money is a big factor with my options of what I can do at this time.

I'll look through the older threads to try and gain more information. Thank's again for your help.

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I could tell you how to fix the jiffy stand issue for less than $1, but the last time I brought it up everyone threw a fit so I'll just be quiet..........

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I could tell you how to fix the jiffy stand issue for less than $1, but the last time I brought it up everyone threw a fit so I'll just be quiet..........
Don't tease us. There's always someone who knows a better way to for it. Maybe you could just pm me the 1 dollar fix. The jiffy stand is the only thing stopping me now. I have read of using heat or washers.


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The washers will work, all you need to do is move the bottom of the stand where it bolts to the frame about 1/4 inch and that will give you the results you need.

I went with the block that is discussed in another thread here on this page only because I wanted more contact area between the jiffy stand and the frame.

The washers is less work and cheaper. The block however is not expensive either.

Today I am going to revisit mine and put a few washer between the block and the top of the jiffy stand mount to re-level my floorboard. (basically just the opposite of what you are doing with the washers at the bottom.) It is not that much off but I know so it bugs me. Besides its raining and cant ride today.

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I'll temper this by stating that my local riding conditions include pretty crappy roads, and have a big influence on my suspension opinions. So, keep my bias in mind! Id start out by trying a lower seat, and lower the suspension as only a last resort. It's basically mathematically impossible to shorten your shocks/forks without compromising the suspension performance/ride quality. Sorry if I offend with that statement. Granted a high quality shorter suspension setup may be "better than stock". That's due to the factory air shocks and damper tube forks being cheap crap to start with. Take a ride on good quality shocks/forks at stock height, and then try the short version of the same shock. You'll feel the difference. BTDT. The only way to keep a short shock from bottoming out is stiffer springs=rougher ride. One advantage you have, if you do have to go with a shorter suspension, is being shorter also generally means that you weigh less, which will help offset the shorter travel. Also, if going the short shock route, get the very best shocks you can afford.

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Done all the above and still not enough

Put on your thinking cap's for this one! I am 5'3" with a 27" inseam that means that when I come to a stop just my tip toes are on the road. I am very comfortable with my wife on the back and at stops, I just can't back up worth a hill of beans. I look like a rookie and I've been on a big twin for 9 years and counting.

I have taken 2" out of the stock seat and another 1" off each side.
2" lower blocks with shorter rear shocks.

The problem I found with the blocks is that my travel is very limited and when ridding 2 up we are bottoming out, luggage makes it even worse. I am running 40lbs of air to help stiffen the shocks but a good pot hole and we are toast. I am most concerned for our safety and will be going back to the drawing board this winter.

I have heard about a kit called the FBI which rebuilds everything on the frame and basically seats you on top of the battery. It is also $2500 clams and I am not looking to invest that much into the bike.

Any tips or tricks are welcome.
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