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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-04-2013, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
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I'm looking to purchase a set of 444s and I'm having a problem locating what I need. I have a '13 RGC and I am also installing -2 monotubes.

The Progressive site, when searching for a lower than stock height, only lists 11.5" shocks. Direct Harley Parts lists the 11.5" and 11" 444 shock. My questions are 1. Why doesn't progressive list the 11" shock on their site and 2. Should I go 11" or 11.5" with the front -2".

I know no one will be able to speak for progressive as per what's on their site but is the 11" shock a discontinued item?

Thanks in advance for the info. Also, I plan on going with a 21" wheel but not for at least another riding season.


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Bump to the top. This is the same set up I'm considering. I'm also considering the Monroe air because of the price and WOW factor lol. Hopefully those running the 444 can chime in on the OP's questions.

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1) progressive lists the 444 in 11.5" cuz that's the shortest they make in production

2) the website your looking at that lists the 444 in 11" is most likely from when they changed there website over from the 440s to the new style 444s and never deleted the 11" length.......but that's just my guess

3) the 11.5" length rear shock will work and function just fine. But, will it be "okay" that depends on what your looking for outta your rear suspension....I'm assuming you want a low look while still being about to ride hard, if that's the case, nothing beat air ride

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1) progressive lists the 444 in 11.5" cuz that's the shortest they make in production

2) the website your looking at that lists the 444 in 11" is most likely from when they changed there website over from the 440s to the new style 444s and never deleted the 11" length.......but that's just my guess

3) the 11.5" length rear shock will work and function just fine. But, will it be "okay" that depends on what your looking for outta your rear suspension....I'm assuming you want a low look while still being about to ride hard, if that's the case, nothing beat air ride

Just my $.02 though


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You hit the nail on the head. I want the low look but I love riding the twisties as well. The 444 seemed to be the happy medium between price and functionality.

I have looked into the Arnott air ride with 12" Bilstein shocks as well. I really don't want to spend $1000+ on rear suspension so that was my option with air ride.

If I went with air ride, are the Bilstein shocks suitable for what I'm looking for?


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Thanks SIC .. I knew you'd suggest air. Stag there's a lengthy thread on Monroe air. I believe a self install can be done for around $250. It's gotten a lot of good reviews over the past year.

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You hit the nail on the head. I want the low look but I love riding the twisties as well. The 444 seemed to be the happy medium between price and functionality.

I have looked into the Arnott air ride with 12" Bilstein shocks as well. I really don't want to spend $1000+ on rear suspension so that was my option with air ride.

If I went with air ride, are the Bilstein shocks suitable for what I'm looking for?


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You'd do just fine with the Arnott bilstein setup, think custom dynamics is the cheapest listed price I've seen lately @ $506 with free shipping. Then get yourself a CVO switch and your in business with a clean look :thumbup: I ran the bilstein setup on my last three bikes with no issues or complaints........running the aldans this time, just to try them, I like the idea of the adjustable rebound but it does come at a cost!

I've personally haven't tried the Monroe setup (homemade air ride), some say its great and some buy Bilstiens/aldans to swap over after the fact. I think it's a case of "not knowing better" they ride great if the only thing you have to compare them to it the OEM setup LOL to quote RichieRich, I don't own a corvette so I have no need to buy a set of the Monroe's LOL

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This may sound funny but I don't know if I want the adjustability. I'm almost afraid that I would always be adjusting them all the time.

I could be way off since I've never owned a bike with an adjustable air system.


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Thanks SIC .. I knew you'd suggest air. Stag there's a lengthy thread on Monroe air. I believe a self install can be done for around $250. It's gotten a lot of good reviews over the past year.
Air best of both worlds :thumbup:

The biggest consistent issue/problems I've seen with the Monroe set is:
1) some guys get shocks that leak right out of the box, from the weld at the top of the shock body
2) some guys have problems with the air lines working there way out of the fittings. There are a few ways to fix/avoid this
3) not all shocks will work with the bolt on lowering kits, Gaberal's I think don't but the Monroe's do something like that
4) they take a LOT of air volume to fill, there's ways around this
5) 14" ride height, if your aired up to a decent psi


Bang for the buck.....$250 is cheap!!!

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You got me thinking now. I was thinking 444 at around $500. No wonder RR is in so deep. You're a damn good salesman . BTW I was thinking Corvette when I 1st mentioned Monroe's. He's quite the comedian.

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You got me thinking now. I was thinking 444 at around $500. No wonder RR is in so deep. You're a damn good salesman . BTW I was thinking Corvette when I 1st mentioned Monroe's. He's quite the comedian.
Kenny, it's only money that's what Richie tells me SMH he's loaded though LOL

The 444s will ride/handle better than the the Bilstiens, there is no doubt about it. But the Bilstiens will ride better than OEM, there's no doubt about it LOL it's all about what your looking for

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