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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 04:03 AM Thread Starter
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Since I don't have a lot of money I am going to start with 2 speakers and an AMP,going to add 2 more speakers to the rear later. I am wanting to use the RF PBR 300x4 with 2 Polk db651's this should work since they are all 4ohms. Can I just use 2 channels for the new speakers and continue to run the rear speakers off of the head unit till I can afford the two for the back speaker pods???? Then when I add speakers to the rear just hook them to the other 2 channels and change the switch on the AMP from 2 to 4 ????? Someone who knows more than me give me some advice. Thanks


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having had both amps PBR300x4 then PBR300x2, db 651 slim and regular

they are impressive for the money spent, but the PBR300x2 is more practical
in it's usage, look at the variable crossovers and ability to run a remote EQ

PBR300x2 is more advanced, software rewrite fixed 30+ bugs from the previous version PBR300x4

the db is a gold/silver coned version of the black coned DXi, purchased at BestBuy, db is a value line, slimline and regular basket backspace sizes are the same, but the db tweeters swivel and the slimline ones do not, both are fairly durable, but the on board crossovers are a bit weak, ran mine with better crossovers for a few day and they sounded like better speakers and hit pretty hard, but I was running them as 2ohms with another set

having said all that, if you are looking to only replace stock location stuff and get the best "bang for your buck" and keep it simple, go MM or 2ohm, check out Infinity Kappa 63.9i, 95db sensitvity, 225w max

you'll really need all you can get, from the stereo to hear it

2ohm is about 2 louder, or an honest 8db greater

also the line out from your radio should be converted with a OEM converter

that was one of the 30+ fixes, but redundancy can improve stability

these boosted rail amps convert input voltage to 30v, makes it easier if the input signal is clean.

but good luck in which ever direction you go

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having had both amps PBR300x4 then PBR300x2, db 651 slim and regular

they are impressive for the money spent, but the PBR300x2 is more practical
in it's usage, look at the variable crossovers and ability to run a remote EQ

PBR300x2 is more advanced, software rewrite fixed 30+ bugs from the previous version PBR300x4

the db is a gold/silver coned version of the black coned DXi, purchased at BestBuy, db is a value line, slimline and regular basket backspace sizes are the same, but the db tweeters swivel and the slimline ones do not, both are fairly durable, but the on board crossovers are a bit weak, ran mine with better crossovers for a few day and they sounded like better speakers and hit pretty hard, but I was running them as 2ohms with another set

having said all that, if you are looking to only replace stock location stuff and get the best "bang for your buck" and keep it simple, go MM or 2ohm, check out Infinity Kappa 63.9i, 95db sensitvity, 225w max

you'll really need all you can get, from the stereo to hear it

2ohm is about 2 louder, or an honest 8db greater

also the line out from your radio should be converted with a OEM converter

that was one of the 30+ fixes, but redundancy can improve stability

these boosted rail amps convert input voltage to 30v, makes it easier if the input signal is clean.

but good luck in which ever direction you go
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How do you run 4ohms speakers as 2ohms speakers? I am not really audio savvy AT ALL. As I said I only have about $250 to start with,and I am a big music buff so I really want to hear my music,but I don't plan on entering any sound shows,and I'll be doing the work myself,just don't trust ANYONE working on mine OR my wifes bikes.
Thx for the reply,I sort of understand most of it.LOL


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How do you run 4ohms speakers as 2ohms speakers? I am not really audio savvy AT ALL. As I said I only have about $250 to start with,and I am a big music buff so I really want to hear my music,but I don't plan on entering any sound shows,and I'll be doing the work myself,just don't trust ANYONE working on mine OR my wifes bikes.
Thx for the reply,I sort of understand most of it.LOL
wire them in parallel in other words,both speaker positives to line positive,same with the negative side.


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I agree with h-donut, I've had both amps also, the 300x2 is better.

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How do you run 4ohms speakers as 2ohms speakers? I am not really audio savvy AT ALL. As I said I only have about $250 to start with,and I am a big music buff so I really want to hear my music,but I don't plan on entering any sound shows,and I'll be doing the work myself,just don't trust ANYONE working on mine OR my wifes bikes.
Thx for the reply,I sort of understand most of it.LOL
I'd strongly recommend the knu concepts wire over the Boss package, well worth the extra $7

the PBR300x2 has been changing in price from $145 to $160 back and forth

but the PEQ is now $22 down from $24

if you do one set, I'd recommend 2ohm speakers, which by nature seem to be more expensive, the max watt rating and sensitivity rating most important

I get it, besides saving the $85/hr, you know the state of things

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wire them in parallel in other words,both speaker positives to line positive,same with the negative side.
more speaker mass, bigger sound

$250 is a little tight to get it all going, maybe under $300-350

but try and avoid "whip its" - stuff you buy because it's a great deal and then
can't use it later

most guys around here who have done the DIY, have tried 'em all and will tell you what works

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One of my riding buddies has the PBR 300x4 and Focal Access 165 CA1 speakers,and when he rides next to me,I can hear his tunes over mine including my pipes. So I just pulled the trigger on both items. I'll post my experience with the results after I get it up and running. I'm going to insulate part of the outer fairing where the speakers are as well. I'm pretty confident I can fabricate my own mount for the amp. I plan on removing the CB too since I don't use it (FOR SALE) and leaving the rear speakers stock for now.I may even just unplug them since they are 2 Ohms and everything I just bought is 4 channel and 4 Ohms,I'll cross thet bridge when I get there. If anyone has any tips or tricks for me I'm always open for thet.
Thanks for all the replies I got,keep'em coming,I'm learning more as we chat,and that can only help.


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So has anyone made their own bracket for the RF PBR 300 ? I am pretty sure I can make my own,being experienced in maintenance. My only problem is I no longer have access to a welder. Any pics would really help.


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this weather is not that great, but I think I will
be making some more tomorrow

https://www.roadglide.org/showthread.php?t=23958

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