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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-02-2017, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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Hi guys newbie to the site here. The answer to my question might be out there some where but I have not found it yet. I just traded for a 2017 road glide Ultra and want to get some more noise out of front speakers (hearing not so good and like to share). If I go after market speakers and amp does the 6.5 infotainment system still need to be flashed to make it sound good? I am not the loudest speaker in the box but I have dealt with my share of stereo systems before. with after market speakers and amp all you are doing is boosting the signal that the radio is already putting out. Simply put. Thanks for any help you guys have.
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The easy answer is no. If you are only looking to add an amp and two new speakers in place of the factory speakers in your fairing I would do the following:

1) Research and buy your favorite amp
2) Research and buy your favorite marine grade speakers
3) Contact Biketronics and buy their Line Leveler

The BT Line Leveler will take the speaker line output and strip it down to a clean input signal to provide to the amp. The amp will then amplify a cleaner signal and feed the speakers. This way the amp is not amplifying any noise the 6.5 Infotainment system is putting out.

Follow the directions for the amp installation. Take the two speaker outputs from the head unit into the BT Line Leveler. From the Line Leveler into the amplifier. From the amplifier into the new speakers. The Head unit will be none the wiser. Things get a little more complicated when you add more speakers but not exponentially.
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Cander is pointing you in the right direction. However, you don't necessarily need to restrict your speaker search to marine grade only. If you're going to constantly ride in rain storms then the marine grade speakers might be a good investment. Many riders (myself included) didn't go the marine grade speaker route and have systems that are still running perfect here two years later.

I occasionally wash my bike at the car wash, and have been caught out in the rain numerous times and my fairly inexpensive Kappa's are still kicking. Of course you don't want untreated paper cone speakers, but there are plenty of non-marine options out there that will hold up pretty well even if they aren't marine rated.

Next thing to do is set a budget, and then determine whether you want a plug and play kit available from some of the vendors highly recommended around here, or whether you want to piece something together yourself.

When I did my audio upgrade no one besides J&M was offering a "kit" for the new Rushmore RGs so I pieced together my own system using components I chose myself. But now there are many plug and play options available if you want to go that route.

The OEM Harley HK units (4.3 and 6.5) are perfectly fine for using as the original source. A good AMP, speakers and BT355 line leveler will yield a system that most everyone can be happy with and worlds apart from how the bike sounds coming out of the factory.
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Thanks Guys. I love these forums because people are so knowledgeable and willing to share that knowledge. I had a system on my 2011 ultra limited that worked great and wanted to put it on this bike. Just did not know if it would work on this one with the infotainment system. Thanks for all the help and I will add the BT line leveler to this system.

By the way my speakers at the end were not marine grade and had them for 4 years before trading bike.
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I run a flash...i have been told BT line levelers are the way to go if you cant get a proper flash done.

My flash is 2 amp ON/8 speaker ON ... supposedly the flattest EQ curve tested... ran this flash on my 14SGS and now 15 RGS with a high end 6 Speaker system from Soundz Customz. It will hurt your ears... no joke.

Some d ont like this flash since you have no FADER control, but a properly tuned system doesn't require you to fade your system

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I dont really need the fader...but who does the flash then? Soundz? My understanding that HD dealers dont anymore

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I dont really need the fader...but who does the flash then? Soundz? My understanding that HD dealers dont anymore
Soundz Customz has a SCAN TOOL to configure the flash...as well as some aftermarket audio shops.

Problem is... finding a shop near you WITH a scan tool to do the correct flash on your head unit.

I had both of mine done at the dealer prior to 86ing the dealer's abilities to do so

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The 8 speaker 2 amp flash is the best one. You need to find an independent shop with a Techno Research tool that can flash it for you. Otherwise a Biketronics Line leveler is your best option.
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The easy answer is no. If you are only looking to add an amp and two new speakers in place of the factory speakers in your fairing I would do the following:

1) Research and buy your favorite amp
2) Research and buy your favorite marine grade speakers
3) Contact Biketronics and buy their Line Leveler

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Follow the directions for the amp installation. Take the two speaker outputs from the head unit into the BT Line Leveler. From the Line Leveler into the amplifier. From the amplifier into the new speakers. The Head unit will be none the wiser. Things get a little more complicated when you add more speakers but not exponentially.
awesome info.....
could you do a little write up for a 4 speaker set-up ?
also, It looks like the Rockford Fosgate RF-HLC is the same as the BT line leveler at 1/3 the price .


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Cander is pointing you in the right direction. However, you don't necessarily need to restrict your speaker search to marine grade only. If you're going to constantly ride in rain storms then the marine grade speakers might be a good investment. Many riders (myself included) didn't go the marine grade speaker route and have systems that are still running perfect here two years later.

I occasionally wash my bike at the car wash, and have been caught out in the rain numerous times and my fairly inexpensive Kappa's are still kicking. Of course you don't want untreated paper cone speakers, but there are plenty of non-marine options out there that will hold up pretty well even if they aren't marine rated.

Next thing to do is set a budget, and then determine whether you want a plug and play kit available from some of the vendors highly recommended around here, or whether you want to piece something together yourself.

When I did my audio upgrade no one besides J&M was offering a "kit" for the new Rushmore RGs so I pieced together my own system using components I chose myself. But now there are many plug and play options available if you want to go that route.

The OEM Harley HK units (4.3 and 6.5) are perfectly fine for using as the original source. A good AMP, speakers and BT355 line leveler will yield a system that most everyone can be happy with and worlds apart from how the bike sounds coming out of the factory.
I totally agree. When we were big into the boat and poker run thing I was constantly buying Marine grade radios and speakers. Pretty much got tired of the limited quantity and quality so I started buying what I wanted and didn't worry about the marine grade stuff. I got the same amount of life out of the good quality audio stuff and better sound.

I just blew a speaker yesterday and put some Focals in it. They sound good but need to be broke in. They also need a little more wattage so I see an amp in my near future...


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