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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-22-2013, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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I have spent hours reading the audio forum and confusing myself. So I am looking for help desining balance of system. Presently I have the Sony marine head which holds my iPod and biketronics controls. This winter I want to add speakers in the stock location and inner farings also, along with amp(s). I would like to add new lid covers with dual 6.5" speakers also. I would like the covers to have a set of coaxial s and a set of woofers.
What speakers should I use and ohm style
What amps should I use and ohms
Am I wasting money on subs ?

I would like to just be able to buy the stuff and just plug and play based on your advise. I have a budget of $2000.00 for this project

Thanks for the help guys
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-22-2013, 11:37 AM
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I don't think subs are really 'achievable' on the bike without a mono block amp mounted in the bags themselves, then you're out the bag space and chewing up the battery too quickly.

a full range in the lids is more doable and makes decent bass with oval speakers, 5x7, 6x9 have better low end handling than 6.5's

true mass to power for a sub is 6:1 and at least 3:1 and that about a 3000w peak amp, at which point, you've overrun your bikes 30amp capacity or taxing it heavily. plus you have to have the speaker mass to back it up.

I get close to fast drawing down the battery with a pair of 1000w peak rockford PBR300x2's

I like the setup I have because it's compact, clear and efficient, good math can be involved in your decicions, not just cost, but performance, and resilience

stacked bridge mounted component speakers are what I went with, install like coaxials and perform with better separation, ZX in the front and HAT in the back, although the Hogtunes lids look interesting.

you'll get many opinions

If you go with a PBR300x2 setup or hawg wired CS/RS amp, I have brackets that fit those applications, leave room for the extra side wall speakers, leave everything neat out of the way

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I agree with everything h-donut has said. I just completed the front stage on my bike. I have a PBR300x4 and a PBR300x2. The PBR300x4 is pushing four Rockford PPS4-6s and two Soundstream SST-05s. One set of PPS4-6s and the SST-05s are run off of a JBL passive crossover. The other set are on channels 3/4 and are installed on the inside of the inner fairing. It is plenty loud.

My plans with the PBR300x2 is to run either two 6x9s (no lids) or a single 10" sub in the right bag. You will not be able to distinguish low bass while riding the bike. In fact, I'm only looking at a 10" install for show and parking lot fun. But if you're only interested in vocals and clarity, I'd go with stock locations, and dual 6x9s in the lids. I just did a friends bike and he has two sets in his lids. The 6x9s will give you some low end, and it sounds nice.

Hope this helps with your decision. When I'm done with mine, I will post pics.

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Hope this helps with your decision. When I'm done with mine, I will post pics.

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Definitely post some pics. Will you put the second amp in the bag with the 10" sub?
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Definitely helped me out. I guess the new question would be if I should use focal or fosgate speaker and which ones to use
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The second amp is mounted behind the front fairing as well. I made some "dog ears" similar to the ones sold by other companies. Basically, it is a metal plate with holes that attaches to the fairing mounts. The SST-05s replace the Air and Volt gauges. Looks pretty good. I won't be done with the sub for a while. So later this week I'll post what I have so far.

I've not heard the Focals, so I can't judge. The Rockford PPS4-6s, according to the documentation, are specifically designed to be loud. They take a pounding. I selected them based on a friend's recommendation. He has a bike called Novacaine (featured in two issues of Urban Bagger).

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Here are a few pics of the install and the finished product. Don't mean to pack your thread.

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I've been in the same boat as you. Been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what system I want to build. I think I've narrowed it down to a Kenwood 797 deck, Hertz HCX 165 6.5"(4 OF THEM) and a JL XD/400x4 amp.

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That's definitely a good combo. I installed a similar setup in a friend's SG. Sound real nice. I'll start working the subwoofer soon.

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