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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-11-2016, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Considering a new Back end.

I am considering a little cosmetic make over to the rear end of my 2016 Velocity Red Sunglo Roadglide.

The options are as follows:

A) Bad Dad Minister rear fender, 4" extended bags with custom lights, and speaker lids
B) CVO rear fender and CVO factory extended bags, and speaker lids
C) Arlen Ness angled extended rear fascia, CVO factory bags (or bag extensions), and speaker lids

Option A would be really sweet but I am confident it is out of my budget.

Option B is a proven factory combination, but I am not fully sold on the CVO taillights. Some days I like them, other days I really prefer the small bullet lights and the tri-bar light. I think largely, I want to keep the tribar light.

Option C is the cheapest, especially if I go with the bag extensions, but I am worried that the body lines of the CVO factory bags or the bag extensions won't line up correctly around the exhaust. Does anyone have input or knowledge on whether this combo would work? I am not typically someone that wants to do the job more than once. I tell myself to just get the bag extensions and Arlen Ness fender extensions. If I liked it and wanted to clean up the look in the future, I could always go with the factory CVO extended bags later on. This would let me get most of the look I am after and I would just need to get used to the added body line of where the bag extensions match up to the bag. Probably not the worst thing in the world.

Ok, now since I have taken the time to type all of this out. Counsel away and tell me how silly I am being and to just man up and make the decision.

Please share your thoughts, even if it is how silly I am being.

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I am considering a little cosmetic make over to the rear end of my 2016 Velocity Red Sunglo Roadglide.

The options are as follows:

A) Bad Dad Minister rear fender, 4" extended bags with custom lights, and speaker lids
B) CVO rear fender and CVO factory extended bags, and speaker lids
C) Arlen Ness angled extended rear fascia, CVO factory bags (or bag extensions), and speaker lids

Option A would be really sweet but I am confident it is out of my budget.

Option B is a proven factory combination, but I am not fully sold on the CVO taillights. Some days I like them, other days I really prefer the small bullet lights and the tri-bar light. I think largely, I want to keep the tribar light.

Option C is the cheapest, especially if I go with the bag extensions, but I am worried that the body lines of the CVO factory bags or the bag extensions won't line up correctly around the exhaust. Does anyone have input or knowledge on whether this combo would work? I am not typically someone that wants to do the job more than once. I tell myself to just get the bag extensions and Arlen Ness fender extensions. If I liked it and wanted to clean up the look in the future, I could always go with the factory CVO extended bags later on. This would let me get most of the look I am after and I would just need to get used to the added body line of where the bag extensions match up to the bag. Probably not the worst thing in the world.

Ok, now since I have taken the time to type all of this out. Counsel away and tell me how silly I am being and to just man up and make the decision.

Please share your thoughts, even if it is how silly I am being.

-c
Is it the new CVO lights you don't like or do you not like the old ones either? I had a similar problem couple years ago. I really wanted top shop bags but I was pretty sure they weren't gong to match the line of the cvo fender and facia that I already had so I ended up getting the HD extended bags. In my opinion the HD speaker lids look better than the rest but hogtunes comes in at a close second. If you decide to go HD get ahold of Jon at Hornytoad HD and let him know you're a RoadGlide.org member and he'll give you a nice discount. It's about 20% off and no tax, unless you live in Texas. He's PcPain on here. But he doesn't get on here much anymore. Good luck with you decision.


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Hey Mighty Whitey-

I like the CVO lights, but I think it comes down to the question of which I like more. . .CVO or the stock Special lights. Part of me wants to do the CVO rear end because it would be like building the bike the way I think it should have been offered from HD.

Sticking with factory parts and getting a discount would look something like this:

-factory color matched CVO extended bags, $1100
-factory color matched speaker lids, $504
-HD speaker lid grilles, $84
-HD CVO complete rear fender assembly, $799 + paint

That puts me around $2487 plus paint for the rear fender. I would hope that would let me be all in on the body work for $3,000. Obviously the speakers and amp would need to be addressed. But I think I should be able to do that for another $200ish by adding in a set of Polk MM 5x7 and another Soundstream amp.

If I make up my mind, I will contact PCPain to see if his prices are better than what I am looking at right now.

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Hey Mighty Whitey-

I like the CVO lights, but I think it comes down to the question of which I like more. . .CVO or the stock Special lights. Part of me wants to do the CVO rear end because it would be like building the bike the way I think it should have been offered from HD.

Sticking with factory parts and getting a discount would look something like this:

-factory color matched CVO extended bags, $1100
-factory color matched speaker lids, $504
-HD speaker lid grilles, $84
-HD CVO complete rear fender assembly, $799 + paint

That puts me around $2487 plus paint for the rear fender. I would hope that would let me be all in on the body work for $3,000. Obviously the speakers and amp would need to be addressed. But I think I should be able to do that for another $200ish by adding in a set of Polk MM 5x7 and another Soundstream amp.

If I make up my mind, I will contact PCPain to see if his prices are better than what I am looking at right now.
Sounds like a plan to me. Sounds like you've already got the same discount somewhere. My bags were color matched by HD for $1069 shipped. I was pretty sure Jon could get those grilles wrapped up in the package. I personal;y would do the Polk MM 6X9 and a diamond audio micro 2v2. 250x2 in a small package. I run four MM in my fairing. I really like the Polk.
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If you don't like the new cvo lights that stick out just get the older fascia and lights. It's all the same mounts. The fender itself is the same part number.


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I know i'm a little biased, but I don't like the new cvo lights. I much prefer the 'older' ones....

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I wonder if you have to rip out the wire harness underneath the rear fender again in order to do the current cvo rear fascia ? I had to do it to my 2011 RGU but I don't know if it is different on the Specials ?

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Easyryder01- From what I understand, the harness is plug-n-play. I seem to recall that the CVO taillights will plug into the current factory harness. At most, may require a connector to be re-pinned. I will be sure to ask the pertinent questions if I decide to go this route.

MightyWhitey- I have it in my head that the factory speaker lids were compatible with 5x7s. If they are made for 6x9s all the better. I would much prefer the 6x9 size. I am currently running 4 Polk MM speakers in the dash and lower fairings. They are powered by a Soundstream 4 channel Nano amp, or something like that. I like the system, especially for the cost. With that in mind, I figured it was a pretty easy decision to add the similar Polk MMs that will fit in the saddlebag lids and just use a 2-channel Soundstream amp to finish it off. I will need another Biketronics line leveler too.

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I disliked the stock bullet lights and really don't care for the new CVO tails either, I ended up buying the CVO fender and intend to reuse my stock fascia to keep the triple bar. I added Custom Dynamics Plasma rods already and have the saddlebag lights as well. I am hoping that cleans up the rear end the way I want and also adds some visibility. I got all my parts from PC Pain, he was super easy to work with and was speedy in his replies and in shipping the goods. Everything is at the house just waiting on me to get back down from work around the 1st of the year. I'll let you know how mine turns out. I haven't even begun to look into new bags yet though.

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Easyryder01- From what I understand, the harness is plug-n-play. I seem to recall that the CVO taillights will plug into the current factory harness. At most, may require a connector to be re-pinned. I will be sure to ask the pertinent questions if I decide to go this route.

MightyWhitey- I have it in my head that the factory speaker lids were compatible with 5x7s. If they are made for 6x9s all the better. I would much prefer the 6x9 size. I am currently running 4 Polk MM speakers in the dash and lower fairings. They are powered by a Soundstream 4 channel Nano amp, or something like that. I like the system, especially for the cost. With that in mind, I figured it was a pretty easy decision to add the similar Polk MMs that will fit in the saddlebag lids and just use a 2-channel Soundstream amp to finish it off. I will need another Biketronics line leveler too.

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You are correct, they are 5x7. It seemed to me though that there was an adapter for them. I might be wrong though. I priced it all through PcPain couple years ago and I don't think I would have done that for 5x7. I didn't end up doing it all because too many people told me it wasn't worth the coin if you only care about tunes at freeway speed. Not enough people know about the Polk MM in my opinion. It's a great speaker and super tough. I abuse the shit out of them sometimes all day long and they love it. Well maybe they don't love it, but they put up with it. Personally I would save the money from speaker lids and put it into something else. You're going to be in it at least 1K.


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