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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 04-13-2018, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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Stupid question...
What are you cleaning your black bike with after you've got caught in the rain.
Do you wash each time?
Or is there a good spray cleaner, polish?
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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 04-13-2018, 06:48 PM
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P and S showroom. Its a liquid spray on wax. I own a carwash and have never washed my bike. Ive got 20k miles and Ill take the Pepsi challenge. My ride is clean...


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I learned something not long ago by having a Ram 1500 with the black package. This is only my experience and some may have differing ideas, but I would take the bike to a professional detailer and have them perform paint correction and then install one of those ceramic polymer coatings. If they do it correctly it should last for a minimum of 5 years, always be able to look good with the swipe of a cloth and make washing and detailing almost a thing of the past. Bugs will slide right off if they even stick and you shouldn't have marks from water droplets either. I get the Denim Harley's so I do not run into a cleaning problem and the Denim looks pretty good even when it's dirty, but my gloss black Victory Octane is another story. You can see water marks galore on that paint. That bike will be getting the CQuartz ceramic treatment the Summer. Just a different idea for the long term especially if you plan on keeping it.

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I feel everyones pain with black. Owning a black ride is a full time job!
I detail vehicles/bikes as a side gig. Ive been doing it a while and really enjoy doing it and the extra money.
My bike is vivid black and it is the absolute softest paint I have ever dealt with. If you look at it wrong it mars. If I do a regular wash I use 2 buckets, high quality soap and wash mitt. Leaf blower to dry
Waterless wash or rinseless when its not to dirty.
Couple years ago when I got the bike, I did a full paint correction. Paint polished out with a light polish, thats how soft the paint is. I coated it with 22PLE.
Recently I polished the bike out again. Took the bags, side covers, tank, front fender and outer fairing off . After polishing it out I coated the bike with Polish Angel Cosmic and then their High Gloss spray. Polish Angel is a boutique manufacture of products that take gloss and clarity to a level that is insane!
Coatings are a game changer in the detail world. However they are not for everyone.
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I feel everyones pain with black. Owning a black ride is a full time job!
I detail vehicles/bikes as a side gig. Ive been doing it a while and really enjoy doing it and the extra money.
My bike is vivid black and it is the absolute softest paint I have ever dealt with. If you look at it wrong it mars. If I do a regular wash I use 2 buckets, high quality soap and wash mitt. Leaf blower to dry
Waterless wash or rinseless when its not to dirty.
Couple years ago when I got the bike, I did a full paint correction. Paint polished out with a light polish, thats how soft the paint is. I coated it with 22PLE.
Recently I polished the bike out again. Took the bags, side covers, tank, front fender and outer fairing off . After polishing it out I coated the bike with Polish Angel Cosmic and then their High Gloss spray. Polish Angel is a boutique manufacture of products that take gloss and clarity to a level that is insane!
Coatings are a game changer in the detail world. However they are not for everyone.
Tell me more. Why not for everyone?


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Cost, difficulty of proper application, time consuming, and in some cases proper follow up, just to name a few things. Also, they’re not as bullet proof as their marketing would have you believe, they’re just a much better option than conventional wax or spray on wipe off application. @phillyfan1 is a detailer, I’m sure he could expound.
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Stupid question...
What are you cleaning your black bike with after you've got caught in the rain.
Do you wash each time?
Or is there a good spray cleaner, polish?
If you rode through a rain storm you shouldn't do a "bird bath" You'll scratch your paint up with all the dirt getting rubbed around. Give it a real hose off. But for light dust and spots I use Meguiars Gold Class Premium Quik Detailer. It's made for black paint. Spray on and wipe off in the shade. Then about every 3 months I use carnuba wax in a bottle not a paste can (you contaminate the paste with your applicator) for the deepest shine.

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Stupid question...
What are you cleaning your black bike with after you've got caught in the rain?
Just the rain and a blow dry...

(Hint: Alice ain't fussy, and the paint job is like 30+ years old..).

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Coatings are susceptible to marring, swirls, RIDS, etc. Proper washing technique should be followed. When I coat a customers vehicle I have them bring it back 7 days later and wash it. During the wash I explain to them how to wash it properly. Spend all of that money for a coating and to swirl it up makes no sense. So, if you are the type of person that just throws some soap and water in a bucket, wash it, dry it with whatever towel you have then I would advise a coating is not for you.

Coatings stay cleaner longer, protect better than any wax or sealant out there. Coatings look incredible when all the necessary steps are taken, polish, prep, application. They can protect for a long long time. When you can take a hose and spray Love Bugs off the front of a vehicle, thats pretty dam impressive

As for wax applicator picking up debris, nonsense. You are putting the applicator onto clean paint, hopefully.

I don't use quick detailers. I have so much detailing stuff I need products that can do more than one thing. I can wash a car/bike with waterless wash and I can also use it for touch ups like a QD. Its cheaper and does a better job.

I only wax garage queens. Wax is a absolute dust magnet that doesn't last here in FL. I have a $200 jar of Fuzion that just sits in my closet.

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