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Finally got the Kenda Cataclysms mounted yesterday, and only have maybe 20 miles on them. But - first impressions - the ride is much smoother than the Dunlop AEs ... I don't know that I would it call it dramatically smoother, but it is definitely (cloud like) noticeable. And the profile makes for an extremely aggressive (as in pleasantly effortless) drop into corners.


It will take a while to get used to them before I start playing with how predictable/forgiving the edge of traction is, but the my initial impression so far is I'm happy with them.


Did you end up using the zip tie methods to mount them? I've done it that way several times now and have gotten pretty good at it. Just wondering how it went and what your thoughts are on it?


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Did you end up using the zip tie methods to mount them? I've done it that way several times now and have gotten pretty good at it. Just wondering how it went and what your thoughts are on it?


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I was really tempted to give it a shot, but two things stopped me:
1. If anything went wrong it would have left me trying to hand lever tires on/off of the Chrome HD Reaper rims ... And those AE sidewalls are stiff as hell.
2. I really wanted them balanced to make it a fair comparison to the AE's


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I was really tempted to give it a shot, but two things stopped me:
1. If anything went wrong it would have left me trying to hand lever tires on/off of the Chrome HD Reaper rims ... And those AE sidewalls are stiff as hell.
2. I really wanted them balanced to make it a fair comparison to the AE's


I should probably also mention that the bike is my primary transportation, so gambling was not an acceptable risk.

I get that. If you ever do decide to try it in the future here are some things I have learned.


Put the tires out in the sun for a while to warm them up. A few burnouts in the culdesac usually helps speed this process up on the rear tire.
I'm kidding! Maybe...

Use at least 6-8 big zip ties. Once you get them all on go around again and snug them up as tight as possible by putting your knee on the tires pushing it together as you tighten the zip tie. The tighter you can get the zip ties the easier it will make getting the tires off/on.

***Breaking the bead and getting the first zip tie in is the hardest part. I have a HF bead breaker but I know people have made their own. I also use my tire irons that I have wrapped in tape just to create a space to slide the 1st zip tie through. Once you get 1 on and tightened some you are home free. You will no longer need to make a space.

Use plenty of lube on the tire bead and the rim. I went by a local tire shop and they gave me a big glob in a zip lock bag for free. It work better than anything else I've tried.

Get a few sections of 4x4's and an old carpet or towel to put the rim on so that you are not putting any pressure on the rotors.

Taking tire off- I usually put my foot on the rim where I am going to start pulling the tire off. Once you get it to a certain point the whole tire comes right off at once. Tires with tall sidewalls will almost fall off because you can make the inside circle bigger.

Putting tire on- Start one side of the tire onto the rim making sure it goes up into the drop zone of the center of the wheel and then start walking the rest of the tire onto the rim with you hands and knees if necessary.

Once you get the new tire on just take the zip ties off and bounce the tire and wheel a bit as your rotating it to get the bead to start touching the rim. Then I start filling with air to set the bead (2 pops) before I put the valve stem in. Once both sides are seated I then put in my Ride-On tire balancer. Then put in the valve stem, proper amount of air, and install the cap.

19" fronts are the hardest to do due to the short side wall but the are doable. 17", 18" fronts are no problem. 16", 18" rears are not bad either. The extra work you do in the beginning getting the zip ties as tight as they can be pays off when you get to putting the tire on the wheel.

If it is difficult to get the tire off I have used my tire irons that I wrapped and the plastic rim protectors to help things along. It does not take as much pressure though as it would without the zip ties.

This sounds like a lot and I guess it can be but if you are one that likes to do things yourself to save you money this is not a bad option. Like I said before, breaking the bead and getting the zip ties tight enough is the bulk of the work.

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Holy shit man, that write-up is better than the videos I watched!


But I gotta toss in a bit of background. Back in the early 80's - when I was 16 - I worked at a motorcycle junkyard, and as would be expected...I got stuck with most of the tire changes. Remember rim locks? Ah! good times (Not..). I got quite good at it back then and had always prided myself on doing my own going forward for the next almost 4 decades. I levered the Michelins on Alice without a problem. And then I got a set of Dunlop AEs for my brother's 85...


They kicked my ass.


After 2 hours of fighting with the damn things, I finally had to admit that (50+) granddad had gotten beat ... And phoned a friend for backup. It took both of us another hour of sun baking the tire into submission before it finally went on. And then we had to lube the thing up like a virgin to get the bead to seat at somewhere around 150psi.




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I will someday try the ziptie method - it's just too intriguing not to - however... I just didn't have the time (or stones...) to experiment with it on a $2,000 set of rims.
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I have had the Cataclysm tires on my '10 FLTRX for the past 4000 miles and I like them a lot. I mounted them at home with the HF tire changer and mojolever. I put ride-on sealant in my tires and they have been smooth as silk the whole time.
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I just, today. Received a set for my 03 serk. Probably be a while before i get them installed. But I will post results.

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More air pressure fixed the wobbling issue.


42 psi rear
38psi front


up to, at, and past 90mph.

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I have had the Cataclysm tires on my '10 FLTRX for the past 4000 miles and I like them a lot. I mounted them at home with the HF tire changer and mojolever. I put ride-on sealant in my tires and they have been smooth as silk the whole time.

Outstanding, sorry I didn't see this earlier. Can I ask what tire pressure you're running?


I'm currently at 1,000 miles on my set and showing no appreciable wear. The tits are still on the side of the tread where I usually slid around corners with the AE's ...(and it ain't for lack of trying)... So I am quite impressed with these.


However my brother hates them, as he had no luck keeping up with me during the Bike Week hijinks - he spun - I went zoom.
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I started out running the H-D recommended 36 front 40 rear but the bike felt really weird, like it didn't want to turn at all. It was fighting me the whole time. I eventually settled on 42/42 and it works great for me.

I've got a little over 6500mi on them now. The front shows zero wear, the rear is starting to flatten out on the center. I'll definitely buy these tires again if they keep performing like they have so far.
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