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Hey fellas planning on jugs heads and cams this fall. Already have jackpot 2/1/2 ceramic header. Fuel moto intake and power vision tuner. Looking to pick your brains on the two builds. Both about the same price $2700. But local HD dealer has free labor promo on black friday if i go with the screaming eagle. Like to get some feedback on both builds.
 

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Hey fellas planning on jugs heads and cams this fall. Already have jackpot 2/1/2 ceramic header. Fuel moto intake and power vision tuner. Looking to pick your brains on the two builds. Both about the same price $2700. But local HD dealer has free labor promo on black friday if i go with the screaming eagle. Like to get some feedback on both builds.
Your dealer is limited by EPA restrictions on 2017 and up bikes. Fuel Moto is not.
Talk to them about how you ride, and they should walk you through the process.
Whomever does the build should be able to provide a dyno run sheet to satisfy what they promise.

What bike do you have?
 

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30000 miles on it so its ready for a build. Bike was completely stock when i bought it last year. I live i RI emissions arnt yo strict here
 

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First, if you pay someone to do the work, you should go with the parts they advise.

Second, if you pay someone to do the work, you should go with the parts they advise.

My advise is to add $1700 to that ticket for a good set of wheels. Those stage 4 kits are way more than oem wheels can be trusted with.

As for which kit. I'm making about 130 with the tire shredder, S&S 585 cam and wheels tuned with a Thundermax.
 

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My advise is to add $1700 to that ticket for a good set of wheels. Those stage 4 kits are way more than oem wheels can be trusted with.
Why do you say this statement? I have the Stage 4 Screamin Eagle 110" with stock 16" CVO wheels (2008 tc). Is there something I should keep an eye on? I don't have any traction issues with these Avons, I tell ya.
 

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Why do you say this statement? I have the Stage 4 Screamin Eagle 110" with stock 16" CVO wheels (2008 tc). Is there something I should keep an eye on? I don't have any traction issues with these Avons, I tell ya.

When talking about Harley motors, "wheels" means crank assembly. The MoCo air cooled VTwins do not have crank shafts as such, its not a single shaft. They use built up assemblies. And instead of saying crank assembly or or crankshaft assembly, some people just say wheels, or wheel set.

The reason I say it is this? Oem twin cam wheel sets are the root of most of the twin cam evils. They are made from soft material for the single reason of saving money. Even the crank pins are soft, with a hard layer electrically formed on the surface. The wheels shift, the pins flake and fail, the rods are not rebuildable, and the thrust washers got left on some pencil pushing accountants desk. Got a failure in the primary, check the sprocket shaft run out. Got a failure in the oil pump or chain tensioner (late style) check the pinion shaft run out. Burning oil at 40K miles, look for crank pin in the piston skirts. And if these wheels cant hold up to 68HP, what do you think happens when you put 120 on them.
 

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Thank you for the great explanation. Learning everyday about these bikes, especially with the fine crew around here.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I already blew my cluctch basket apart. I went with stock replacement. Wish i would have went with the evolution backet and gears for couple hundred more
 

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Thermodyne:

"My advise is to add $1700 to that ticket for a good set of wheels."

Could use a recommendation on which setup
 

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30000 miles on it so its ready for a build. Bike was completely stock when i bought it last year. I live i RI emissions arnt yo strict here
If you're in Rhode Island go talk to the guy at Johnson Engine Technology (JET) in Warwick. Rinky dink lil shop but the guy knows his shit. He built my buddy's 107 and it's a runner
 
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