Ditto! Fuel moto jackpot mufflers are a good choice as well. After talking with Jamie at FM, the Grand National pipes have the same baffles as the Jackpots.S&S Grand Nationals w/decibel reducer in.
Are there any out there? I really don't need the bike to be too much loader than stock. I like the way it runs now and I don't want to screw it up. Thanks in advance.
open, flowing exhaust is really not an upgrade on a street machine of any type...unless one does some radical changes to the engine, and a cam swap is not radical. you hit on what a stock motor needs, a little bit of a tune and maybe the loss of the cat...but engines today are proof the cat isnt an inhibitor. its engineered into the performance of engines on all types of vehicles. On these 114's, IMO, just an autotuner and maybe a 'cooler' looking air cleaner itself is all one really needs...the rest is personal choice but the gains, are miniscule in the scheme of things, but if one likes the 'difference' a name air cleaner or decatted pipe, or cam does, then its all that matters...just my .02...Ride It!It seems that you answered your own question. If you like the way it runs, don’t mess with it. Saying this, I’ve tried a few different configurations and tunes and can say the best combination so far is the stock muffler on a “de-catted” stock header with a modified air cleaner and Harley’s stage 1 tune. This is on a stock 114 with factory cam. This combination has resulted in excellent driveability with just the right amount of exhaust “tone”. I prefer to keep things reasonably quiet. The bike runs fantastic...pulls hard all the way to the rev limiter...and has enough “sound” to be pleasing.
I was surprised by the huge loss of throttle response with other “open” or large baffle mufflers and ended up with this combo. I believe that’s why you see some of these companies selling “restrictors” or “torque inserts” now for their mufflers. Loud doesn’t always translate into power...especially when overall driveability is important.
GNX are different than the Grand Nationals, correct?Another vote for the S&S GNX. They’re 4.5” cans that look good, have a nice rumble and with their insert, no loss of torque - that I can feel anyway.
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The only reason I want to mess with it is that the stock exhaust note is a little too quiet for me. Your solution sounds great... except that I've had a few dealers tell me that decatting will void warranty- so that's not an option for me.It seems that you answered your own question. If you like the way it runs, don’t mess with it. Saying this, I’ve tried a few different configurations and tunes and can say the best combination so far is the stock muffler on a “de-catted” stock header with a modified air cleaner and Harley’s stage 1 tune.
S&S Street Cannons? Is that right? I thought the Street Cannons were a Harley muffler?I installed the S&S,Street Cannons in 4.5.
I don’t condone breaking the law, of course. I bought a pipe on ebay that a guy decatted and re sold for about $140.00. Kept my original. If I ever need to go to dealership for service it won’t be that hard to swap pipes. Haven’t needed to for 9k so far. 😙The only reason I want to mess with it is that the stock exhaust note is a little too quiet for me. Your solution sounds great... except that I've had a few dealers tell me that decatting will void warranty- so that's not an option for me.
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That's great, if it works out that way... The last time I broke down I was 1200 miles from home and stranded, towed to a strange dealership and the bike needed a new head. If I had been de-catted I don't know what would have happened, not taking that chance. If I didn't travel around so much on the bike maybe it would be a different story.I don’t condone breaking the law, of course. I bought a pipe on ebay that a guy decatted and re sold for about $140.00. Kept my original. If I ever need to go to dealership for service it won’t be that hard to swap pipes. Haven’t needed to for 9k so far. 😙
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