Over on another forum there is a post about a guy wanting to go with 12 or 14. The guys are telling him he can't even put 12 on without new clutch cable and brake line. I could understand needing wire extensions needed if internally wiring. I know ive heard of people going to 14 by rerouting the clutch cable to other side of Speedo or something like that. Its got me second guessing stuff I'm looking at. I've got 09 he's got 2013. Was gonna go with 14 inch apes with 32 inch width. Thanks for the help. I have directed him this way but no sign of him yet.