Bummer dude...but it's fixed now, ride on!

 

Welcome, from New York, to The Greatest Forum on The Internet!
Sorry to hear about Your engine problem but glad to hear it was covered and repaired under Warranty.
Mike U.

 

Welcome to the forum.

Any chance we can get some more details on what happened? Was it a slow laboring death, or did it go all at once with a loud crunch?

 

Like any good horror story, it "screamed mercilessly and then was silent"! lol. Is it my imagination, or is the MoCo going through a significant number of M8 long-blocks these days.

Dumb question maybe, but I've never asked ..... when they replace a complete long-block do they stamp them with the original serial number or are you stuck with a non-matching numbers bike from that point on?

 

do they stamp them with the original serial number or are you stuck with a non-matching numbers bike from that point on?

They need the original one back and will stamp a new one with the correct #.

 

Kev when they do the long block , they send your left case to HD ...

JtB

 

If the long block has been received by your dealer yet, just how long does that whole process take? They have to receive you old case before they enter a work order I suppose, so I can see this taking a while ...but hope for your sake it doesn't.

 

They re use your left case and from what I have heard it's about three to four weeks turnaround from the dealer shipping your case out ..

JtB

 

Whatever you do run this next motor HARD ...like you stole it. They break them in for you to an extent and leave the rest to you.

This should be what your first ride looks like 🤘

 

Yes, ride responsibly! If you keep the front wheel off the ground most of the time you'll get much longer tire life and you'll have plenty of tread left for when you have to ride in the rain (on 2 wheels).

 

That's why you have a warranty. Glad it's being taken care of

 

Not true @JacktheBagger. When the approval from MoCo is made the order is placed for the long block. MoCo will then stamp the original number on the new longblock and then ship it to the dealer. The availability of the long block is what determines how long it will take. When the new LB arrives at the dealer the reusable parts will then be transferred to the new LB and either the left case halve of possibly the whole engine will be shipped back to the MoCo. Sometimes in certain cases they will want to inspect the engine to see why the parts failed.

Depending on the tech at the dealer and how much time he has he may remove the damaged engine and do everything he can do to be ready to install the new engine. That way he can get the bike back to the customer as fast as he can.

At least this is what we did and I have never heard of them reusing the left case halves in the last several years.

 

They never really gave me an answer to the cause of failure. Serial numbers stay the same. I need to look for the paperwork. The new block seems to run stronger. I switched to AmsOil from syn3 , not taking any chances.

 

Glad to hear HD took care of the issue, I too, am curious what went wrong

 

That’s what warranty is for, mechanical things aren’t perfect. Glad you got it fixed with no problem, welcome to the forum.

 

Welcome to the tank.
Sorry about your bike but glad it was taken care of with out much hassle.
Any word on cause???

 

Curious on cause, also. They didn't give you any grief over the slip ons being non epa compliant (if they weren't)?

 

what slip on available is non epa compliant? just a muffler...

 

This sounds like a hit and run. He joined in Jun 2019 and it’s his first and only post. I could be wrong but...

 

This sounds like a hit and run

That's funny, I like that!

 

Most aftermarket aren't epa compliant. Only one or two that I have heard of are, but I haven't looked in a year or so

 

The point is that the CAT is in the headpipe so the slip-ons don't matter really. Now if you change to a CAT-less headpipe then you will need to buy slip-ons that have the CATs in them. Like the ones S&S sells.

 

When the M8 first came out, most slip ons were not epa compliant. Just did some looking at Rinehart and V&H, and it looks like most of them are now.

 

I think they can say that because a muffler alone cannot tamper with your emissions.

 

Those “epa approved” mufflers are basically California giving them the ok. The rest of the country doesn’t care. “50 state legal” means they’re legal in CA. They’re already legal everywhere else.

 

Yes guys EPA regulates muffs with noise pollution ratings...not likely someone is flagging your bike for them though.

 

What I need to find out is if the dealer will take my left case hand delivered , instead of them stripping the motor down , as I am undecided on which route to go when this one squats .. I will either do a long block or take the cases and have a timken conversion and new wheels or my wheels trued up and done right with DH rods and me do the rest or let someone else just do the whole motor or put a crate in ..

JtB

 

A word on slip on's. Of all the emissions standards set by the EPA, noise is the one most often overlooked. They measure all the noise the vehicle makes, exhaust, mechanical, tires, and if it is below the limit in force at that time, they certify the vehicle. Adding louder cans is an emissions violation, if they cause the vehicle to exceed the noise standard it was certified to. The EPA measures it as one total sound. The EU is worse. They measure it at idle, part throttle on the dyno and full throttle on the dyno and they set the sound pickups so as to zero in on the actual sources of noise. And they bring them back in and recheck them after the vehicle has been in service. One of the things lots of manufactures to move away from valve adjustment pucks.

One of the reasons for the M8 going to a single cam and fixed rocker shafts was to loose some mechanical noise. Mechanical noise is one of the hardest to meet standards in the Euro certs.

 

Not uncommon. Seen several where the rear cylinders meltdown for some reason. Be glad your Long Block is on its way. Ordered one a week ago, estimated delivery JANUARY 28, 2021! Oil Pan for another - FOUR MONTHS! We've been told the 21MY Production is starting and they won't pull anything off the line for the first 90 days because production startup is so far behind because of COVID.

 

At 3000 mine took a shit. 2019 RG CVO Was on my first big ride out in the boonies and the thing started clacking like it was a thrown lifter in a car......No cell service, still under warranty..F it, I kept driving it, it shifted okay and seemed to still run pretty good but that clacking was terrible. got to civilization and rented a haul and took her home in shame. They found a Harley bolt in the oil pump area...WTF. Harley shipped an entire new crated engine all under warranty. i begged for the 131 and was willing to pay the difference but they wont sell them in CA. as they dont meet their emissions out here. F right Off Ca. That sucks. The VIN is stamped the same as the old. The only thing that stuck in my craw was that they dont restart the warranty with the brand new engine, only the remainder of from my original purchase date.

 

The only thing that stuck in my craw was that they dont restart the warranty with the brand new engine, only the remainder of from my original purchase date.

pretty much the way warranties work. there's a well known exhaust mfg that advertises a lifetime warranty. if you have to use it, then the replacement exhaust basically has no warranty.