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Just completed my stereo upgrade and very pleased with outcome. Would like to thank Mr. Joke and a few others on fairing removal :D you guys are the best!
On for a few pics..
1st pic is materials used
2nd pic is oem reading with db meter (Alpine reference disc "Highway 1 track 5)
3rd and so forth are misc. intall pics
Last is the db reading afterwards...
NOTE: the titan instruction sheet is useless..dont go by it..simple install and tweeter is angled slightly so you know what to do :D
 

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yeah man, Ive got a quiet slip on and its pretty much just wind noise drowning my oem system. If I put my touring windshield on its great but anything else I was struggling to hear it..bad hearing I suppose :)
Only regret I have is I didnt buy upgrade headlamp bulbs while I was it LOL
But thanks again to all you guys, no hesitation to take this nose off anymore especially when I do the bars...its a sickness I tell you
nice bars by the way...just saw your pic
 

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Did you buy the plug and play amp from hawg-wired? Biketronics just sent me a pair of those HIGH ENERGY's. What do you think? I also put acoustic baffles on mine and w/o them I wasnt satisfied. I had the old Titans 6.5" and it seemed like I got more bass and fullness. The High Energy's RIP the Highs and w/the acoustic baffle enclosing the whole speaker, brings out more of the bass. Is that Dynamat I see on the inside of your fairing? Did you try it both ways. w/dynamat and w/o?
 

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yes its the hawg wired base kit (direct connect) with 5 1/4" speakers. Didnt use the 5/14" speakers. The reason I went with this is because its a round package that I can possibly sell to someone else more easily when I decide to move on to multiple channel when I do lowers. It sounds great for what it is. The headunit is definitely the weak link in my opinion. A $150 Alpine, etc. would really wake it up but I like the stealth look to it. I do have a Cleansweep made by JL Audio thats still in the box Ive never got to use. That will wake this oem headunit up also. Dynamat and weatherstripping the speakers to separate front sound waves from the rear cone is just a force of habit :) from my car audio hobby back in the day. Guess thats the benifit of doing your own stuff, wasnt a hassle but more fun. Feeling that flimsy front nose is almost sacriligious not to put some in LOL. Didnt do before and after, just wanted her buttoned up again. I aint skeered no more about that front! O yeah the enclosure it the key to getting low response, anything you can do will help. A happy speaker will be a good sounding speaker
 

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Cool Autobred, SAGRILIGOUS!, now theres a term, I havnt seen on here much, and VERY well fitting.Sounds like ya got some GOOD background when it comes to install stereo concept. Have you seen the new TWEETERS for the roadglide that hawg-wired is making? Hawg Wired is very, very nice looking well built stuff. I bought the DbleSht. pkge. last year and for what it is I'm satisfied,for now. What do you think the BEST Head Unit is that you've seen to put in,for Clarity, Power and overall Reliability? You did a fine lookn job, from your pics. That fairing is just a little intimidating at first, you'll get used to taking it off and on. I can have mine off in 10 minutes now, and back on pretty quick too.
 

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Aw man... had nightmares about that fairing after I bought the bike..handlebars, stereo everything points back to that fairing bawhahaha
youre right with the roadglide.org fearless behind me or should I say in front of me...no sweat next time around. NO expert but when I use to do local soundoffs back in the day when it was sound quality (RTA) and not db drags like now:) Alpine was the weapon of choice and any american made amp and german speakers were the ticket. But motorcycles is new to me and just learning brands/models for marine use. Ive talked to my buddy that runs a shop and he said that most/all of your speakers are somewhat better made now. Its the sun/mildew that kills speakers..hence the marine speakers for the boat. Hardly any defnition to this oem headunit in my humble opinon like most oem headunits. I have a Harmon Kardon in my M3 and same dilemna. I think Ill utilize the Cleansweep first since Ive bought it a few years ago and pair it up with a nice multiple channel amp for a winter project. Im trying to keep the oem look but sounds good,the wow factor..because MOCO deserves better LOL
 

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Check out baggernation.com Yaffe has put his 2011 catalog up for download. He is saying that Rockford Fosgate and I (Yaffe) are combining together for the Ultimate Speakers and Head Unit. Let me know what ya think. I've been checking on ebay and R.F. has came out w/a new line of speakers. Reasonably Cheap. Specs look comparable to what I have NOW!
 

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Nice write up, for sure. Thanks.

I also have a background in car audio. Back in the early 90's, I was an IASCA competitor and judge...took a car I built all the way to Nationals. Then, in betweeen a stint with GE, and my current job with a Corvette race team, I had my own shop for a while. Did quite a few clean cars, including one Car Audio magazine feature. I've done the loud (you do what people want to pay for), but clean and clear is my thing.

I'm toying around with a couple ideas for my 08 RG. Part of me wants to just ditch the head unit and speakers completely, and start over...maybe even a custom inner fairing, to take some 8's, or something. Another part of me says just upgrade the speakers, and don't add the extra hassle, expense, and potential for problems. I'll probably start simple, and end up getting into complicated before long. I've built many custom cars over the years, and most of the fun was in the build. When I finished, I usually sold them. With the RG, I so love riding, that I don't want the down time associated with the build...but I guess there is always winter.

Autobred, that Clean Sweep is certainly a fine piece, but I don't think I'd put it in a bike. Sure, you'll get a lot of 'improvement', but I just don't think it would be justified in the less than ideal environment of a bike. And it just adds one more component, which becomes one more potential for problems. Actually, I think the setup would be quite difficult, and you might end up with big problems. As you probably know, the Clean Sweep has a built in, basically non-user adjustable equalizer, designed to account for problems with factory systems (cabin design, speaker size limitations, head unit issues, etc.). I'm afraid that when you go to set it up, with its pink noise generator, that it will boost some frequencies excessively (bass, for example), which will just lead to trouble. That being said, let us know if you do it, anyway...:) I don't have a ton of experience with them...I tried to avoid EQ's, if at all possible, and if one was required, I wanted one I could control. Now, some of the Rockford Fosgate stuff is interesting, like the 3Sixty products...at least you can see and control the settings.

My current line of thought is about boosting the mid range of the stock system. The low end is tough, without the modal reenforcement of some sort of cabin, and the high end is somewhat over rated. For one, most adults can't hear all that high any more, and more importantly, it just doesn't take much energy to reproduce those frequencies well.

I have a bunch of little 2" aluminum cone drivers I picked up for $2 each from Parts Express earlier this year. They look a lot like those 'bowl' drivers you see in ipod docks and computer speakers. Being aluminum, with rubber surrounds, they should be completely fine in the 'outdoors', and while the will lack much impact below about 200hz, they should have tons of midrange. They are 8 ohm, so I'm thinking about putting 4 on each side of the inner, using some version of the factory grill. They look pretty cool, and sort of match the gauge faces, so I might install them in some way they would be visible...like maybe black aluminum bezels, where the grills are now. I also might throw in a little hard dome tweeter, running from like 6khz up, just for good measure.

The plan is to mock something like this up later this week, and see how it sounds. I'll let you all know.

Toby
 

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Now were talkin! :D did I mention.. Glad to have you
onboard LOL
10/4 on the cleansweep bought originally for the HK in my M, def. Overkill thought maybe I can boost voltage or so in bike. Gonna have to catch up later, this iPhone ain't happenin man hehe
but def. Interested in your knowledge, thanks again
 

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I have a question for autobred and tobyj. There is a site called iron cross that is a company of ex H/K employees and they can rework the factory radio so it has pre amp RCA plugs coming out the back. I have the Hawg Wired amp in my 09 and I wonder if you guys think the RCA plugs going through the low pass setting on the amp would make much difference. I thought about getting an Alpine marine grade head unit also but I learned that the factory head unit acts as a diagnostic tool for the electrical system on our RGs and i would like to keep it.http://www.roadglide.org/attachment...ment.php?attachmentid=1673&stc=1&d=1281411097
 

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and the amp i was told it would fit above the radio but moved it to the side of the inner fairing because it made a gap between the inner and outer pieces. The amp is their expandable one I can add a rear channel and a sub if I want. I thought about a 61/2 " free air sub by kicker on the side of the inner fairing like the Yaffee set up.http://www.roadglide.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1674&stc=1&d=1281411345
 

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Good find T, I'll check out site when I get home. Nice setup you have, you're onto something. I got the base hawgwired kit but eventually move to an alpine pdx amps. I've run the 6.5 kicker midbass speakers before in my car and the excursion on those speakers are incredible. I remember the dimension depth being fairly large though. I was contemplating on loosing one of my glovebox anyways and seal it shut. They don't lock and I keep a few wires, cigs and that's about it. This way I could route a big hole in it and put a nice free air in one side. Anycase Toby is very knowledgeable and I'd like to know his take on your ideas also.
 

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I'll try to post a link to the sub I'm looking at. My Hawg Wired amp is expandable 70 watt sub amp and through an e mail with Kicker I was told that would be enough power to run this speaker. It's the comp vt 6.5http://www.kicker.com/Subwoofers. I would also add that i have held off on this upgrade because the shop thad did the audio in my truck says that you wont really hear a sub on our MC's because of the exhaust tones. I think the next thing I'm going to try is the pre amp plugs but not till winter. I can't wait to hear more about what you guys with the audio back ground come up with for your RG's. I want to try anything short of putting anything in my bags.
 
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