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Do any members here also have a K1600 or have had a K1600 and then moved on to a Road Glide?

What were your experiences - both positive and negative - with the K1600?

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I went and looked at a K1600, nice bike. It’s not at all maintenance friendly for the owner. It’s setup basically for dealer only repairs and maintenance. There’s even a valve adjustment that happens fairly often and is pretty expensive because the engine is essentially buried. Not much of an aftermarket for it either. So order it the way you want, get a trinket or two from the dealer, and that’s it. Go ride. It’s got plenty of power and is super smooth and linear.

Bought a Ducati instead. LOL I never though that would happen.....
 

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Buy a Beemer and you will never complain about Harley dealer prices again .. Friend in Australia has a SS1000 ( I think it's the SS ) $1000 every 6000 miles for service ..

Would love a Ducati , but at my age if I ever got in the crotch rocket position I would probably stay there

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I was looking at a K1600 at a hotel in Robbinsville, NC last week, And the guy told me that BMW means Big Money Waster.

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Buy a Beemer and you will never complain about Harley dealer prices again .. Friend in Australia has a SS1000 ( I think it's the SS ) $1000 every 6000 miles for service ..

Would love a Ducati , but at my age if I ever got in the crotch rocket position I would probably stay there

JtB
I realize that there probably aren't many Ducati dealers in Bama, Jack, but you need to get caught up on their line-up as they've been making a cruiser for about 10 years now. It's called the Diavel, 158 HP and 481 pounds. It's a muscle cruiser, sort of in the vein of a Yamaha V-Max. Or check out their MultiStrada sport touring bike with hard bags. 461 lbs. with around 150 HP. Both have a full compliment of electronic riding aids. Out of 8 main models, only 2 are true crotch rocket sport bikes these days. Parts are expensive and dealers are few and far between unless you live in a major metropolitan area.
 
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My riding buddy has had a H-D Heritage Softail Classic, GoldWing, and now a BMW K1600 GTL. His favorite by far is the BMW.

He is a more aggressive rider than I and can make that bike fly through the twisties. He does all of his own basic maintenance (oil, filter, tires) with no complaints. Well, I take that back. The specified Michelin tires are relatively soft, so he burns through tires rather fast, especially the rear. He had a few mechanical issues early on, all covered under warranty. I do know he has spent less $$ maintaining his bike than I have on my 2015 CVO Road Glide Ultra. As I recall, he’s got about 25K on it so far. We have swapped bikes for ~50 miles or so, and it is a night and day difference, with the BMW being lighter and much more responsive, performance wise. We tour together and he has almost as much storage capacity as the H-D.

If you want good assessment of the BMW, go over to their forum. They are pretty blunt about the good and the bad. And go test ride one. I was considering a change last Spring and test drove the K1600B Grand America and the new GoldWing. Both performed amazingly well, but lacked the storage capacity of my existing bike. The K1600 GTL has considerably more storage than the Grand America. But Both bikes are a little too fugly for this long-time Harley rider. I ultimately decided my RGU could satisfy my needs for a couple more years until something really catches my eye. But if it were practical to have both in my garage, I would buy a BMW in a heart beat.

Good luck in your decision.
 

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buddy of mine I used to ride with had a Duc and it was $1,100 minimum every time he took it in. Heard similar about the beemers, couple of folks I met on the road who were on a gold wing said their maintenance cost was cut by 50-75% when then went to Honda from BMW. IMHO, ride whatever fits ya and makes your heart sing.
 

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I realize that there probably aren't many Ducati dealers in Bama, Jack, but you need to get caught up on their line-up as they've been making a cruiser for about 10 years now. It's called the Diavel, 158 HP and 481 pounds. It's a muscle cruiser, sort of in the vein of a Yamaha V-Max. Or check out their MultiStrada sport touring bike with hard bags. 461 lbs. with around 150 HP. Both have a full compliment of electronic riding aids. Out of 8 main models, only 2 are true crotch rocket sport bikes these days. Parts are expensive and dealers are few and far between unless you live in a major metropolitan area.
I know fuzzball , I was being faseeshush ..... I like the MultiStrada and if I wasnt chasing you down in the birthday department , I would serially consider one .. Then there is the KTM also , one of the guys in Kentcky last year had one , another sweet ride .. On the other hand I can do myself in with my anemic 75 HP Roadie ..

too bad the off road bikes werent this cool when we were kids ..

JtB
 

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I did infact own a 2013 K1600GT....BMW is very good M.C...lots of toys and tech...BUT if they have a problem a major problem you will never know because the hide it....I owned a 2013 early year K1600...what a fun bike,did a lot of things very well................UNTIL it started puking smoke....BMW did not say anything about the problem with piston cracking in the 2012-mid year 2013.....I was 3 months out of factory warranty when it all went south....$6100. dollars later....BMW offered NO HELP....SORRY BUT!!!!!I will never ever ever ever buy another BMW of anything....Sorry but the Germans have not forgotten,buy at ur own risk.........I did have RPM1 warranty and they did step up and pay but they tried very hard to derail me ....BE WARE.....
 

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I had a '14 K16 GTL, traded it in on my RGU. Two words: never again.

BMW seats are designed by Nazi ergonomists. They're rockets, but they have a taste for oil that would make an alcoholic blush. And they're as sensitive and fragile as teenaged girls.
 

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I had a 1600GT and really liked it. Technology wise it was light years ahead of HD when it came out, but now (over 1/2 a decade later) maybe not so much. If you want to cover distance fast it's an awesome bike. 120 MPH feels "right" on it. And there lies the problem. At legal speeds it's a boring bike. That's where HD has it beat. At least to me. My RG is comfortable at speeds that won't land me in jail. As far as build quality goes, the 1600 is pretty dialed in. There is lots of plastic compared to HD, but the bike isn't made to compere with HD. The bike is made to be light weight, handle well (for a sports tourer) and go fast. There isn't a huge aftermarket because it comes pretty much loaded. It does take a while to do a major service because even taking the fairing off takes time. But the fairing does an awesome job of wind protection.
I never had any issues with my 1600, and the major service is at around 15K if I remember correctly. That's a fairly spendy service because you are maintaining a BMW 6 Cylinder engine. But if you want a bike that you can set the cruise control at 135 MPH, I can't think of any that won't be expensive somewhere along the way.
You can't fairly compare a sports tourer to a cruiser. They are designed to do different things. The new BMW cruiser with the 1600 engine would be more comparable. Personally, I think that bike looks like crap. And the build quality doesn't compare to HD, because all the plastic is out of place on a cruiser.
Someone posted (correctly) about BMW factory being asses about service, and I couldn't agree more. They downplay serious issues (like fork stanctions on the GSA) and their car service is the same. That's why I don't drive a BMW anymore.
 

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BMW bikes have gotten more and more complicated, and expensive, as time has moved on. The old Airheads were simple and reliable, mine had 180k miles on it when I sold it. The same can be said for HDs. However, the degree of complexity, is greater with BMW.

Consumer Reports rated major MC brands for reliability several years ago. At the top, Yamaha, followed by the other Japanese brands, then Harley. At the bottom, BMW.

Other than routine maintaince, I have not even turned a nut on my Honda at over 100k miles. Same for my Kawasaki, less miles. Ducati requires about $400 every 7.5k miles for belts and valves. HD so far, nothing.

Any fancy European vehicle is gonna cost you $$.
 

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My Diavel is 162 HP and is extremely lightweight and easy to handle. It’s a blast. The only thing I’ve done to it is added a can and a carbon fiber rear tire hugger to match the rest of the bike. Very capable machine. Way more tech than any of my HDs.



It’s got the heart of a crotch rocket, but you sit upright and it’s pretty comfy. No fairing, no windscreen, no rearsets, nothing stupid.



This one happens to be a Carbon Fiber edition. I think it looks amazing.

I should add, the dealer said they don’t usually sell Diavels to Ducati guys. They sell most of them to H-D guys. I’ve found that to have some truth to it. A lot of owners (I’ve met or on the forums) are or were H-D owners.
 

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Emil, I currently ride a 2018 k1600 grand America, previously a 2017 road glide ultra. The two bikes are completely different the BMW is a sport touring model the Harley is a touring model. Handling and power goes to the BMW, stability and comfort and a light years difference on the navigation and audio goes to the Harley. Service maintenance isn't bad on either bike, the BMW has valve checks every 18,000 miles they never Need adjustment but they want them checked? Oil and filter ever 6k I do mine every 5k. Tires last about 7k of normal riding less if you have a heavier throttle hand. Another thing to consider there are less dealership net work with BMW. My bottom line is I like both bikes if you're going to ride the interstate long trips in the saddle your not going to find a better bike than the road glide, the BMW doesn't like turbulence especially the Grand America it's fast but likes to dance. Now that's an honest review by someone that has owned both. My advice take a close look at the 2020 Road glide limited. Enjoy the ride
 

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Thanks to "Bradley" and "Jarrell" for the excellent review/comparisons. Both were straight up, tell-it-like-it-is reviews without a bunch of hyperbole one way or the other. The one thing that struck me odd was when Jarrell said the HD nav and audio was light years ahead of the Beemer .... wow, that's a shock since most of us think HD's system is way overpriced and greatly under performs expectations.
 

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... too bad the off road bikes werent this cool when we were kids ..

JtB

Jack, when we were kids, we were just glad that they had switched from leather drive belts to chains! And that we didn't have to peddle 'em to get them started.
 

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I had a '14 K16 GTL, traded it in on my RGU. Two words: never again.

BMW seats are designed by Nazi ergonomists. They're rockets, but they have a taste for oil that would make an alcoholic blush. And they're as sensitive and fragile as teenaged girls.

You been hanging out with teen aged girls again?
 
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