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Sunny morning and I decided to ride to work, well getting off the interstate I eased my rear brake pedal down and it went all the way to the bottom and no brakes. Got to work and did some looking for fluid and none was found, Got it home a few minutes ago and will pull the cover off the m/c in the morning and check it out.. Anyone had this happen before??
 

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I had a few buddies several years ago who had similar problem but they were in the mountains and they think the brake system wasnt purged causing a air pocket to develop in the brake line.

You may just need to bleed the brake line out to get a possible air bubble out
 

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I just read in this month's AIM that if you use DOT 5 brake fluid and haven't changed in years that it can build up an air pocket in the system because of air trapped between the fluid's molecular structure. If you has ABS you're suppose to be using DOT 4 which has an affinity for water - causing rusted brake components. :eek:
 

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well mine is a 99 so no abs.. no leaks anywhere, rainey and nasty all day so I did not fool with it, tomorrow is suppose to be 38 and windy, may not uncover it until Sunday or Monday. Talked to several people today and they all feel due to the age it is probably the M/C but I will figure it out soon.
Thanks for the replies.
 

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I found it... tiny pin hole in line, it appears to have been rubbing on my braided breather tubes and until I moved them I could not see any fluid leaking.. will be replacing the line with braided this week...
 

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Well I went by the HD dealer here in Jackson to see how bad I was going to get bent over on the brake line and they had it in stock..$149.99 plus tax.
Well before I committed I slipped off looking around the store and call Chunkey River.
$96.45 and I had a buddy pick it up and bring it to Jackson with him last night. I have tried several times to trade locally and have ask about a discount and get the same answer. No one gets a discount here....
 

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Like your dealers, my local dealers, also, offer no discount on parts, so if you don't mind waiting, I have found Surdyke Harley, in Festus, MO, to be a good mail order place for discount Harley Davidson parts. Most parts are usually about 20% off of list price. I have bought quite a few things from them over the years and have never had a problem. This is their web site www.surdyke.com. Good luck
 

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Jackson Harley may not give a discount - however they and only a few "very few" other dealers sell their bikes at MSRP with ABSOLUTELY no markup other than shipping and dealer prep. Bought my bike and bought all parts from them the first month as they do give a discount the first 30 Days and didn't charge me for the labor. They put on a 103 kit stage II and I still have full waranty. I had someone tell me the other day that they bought their RGC from Chunky and got a really good deal. Iended up paying 75 more they they did for mine BUT I have ABS and Crusie and theirs doesn't. So make sure you are looking at all apples when comparing. Yes you can get better pricing with a 20% discount from Harley dealers online. They can afford to do this because they get such a large amount of sales. Plus they don't even have a lot of the things in stock. They oder it from Harley after they have your money in hand. Usually takes them two weeks for them to get it in and then they send it to you. Have no problem with that. I have also looked at the prices of their new bikes at the parts dicounted Dealers and I am glad I bought mine where I did. I may not get a discount when I walk in now but I really get wonderful service and is usually very quick. I don't mean to bend any ears here or piss anyone off. Just giving my 2 cents.
 

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Trey, both dealers had the brake line in stock, Jackson just being the usual azz they are had to ask someone to wait on me, and then it took 15 minutes for them to find the thing.
Called Doug at Chunkey and he was not only $60.00 less on the line but I had paid over the phone and ready to be picked up in less than 5 minutes. The times I have tried to buy from Jackson I got treated like crap even when looking at a new bike. Maybe I do not meet thier standards for buying from them...
 

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".....Yes you can get better pricing with a 20% discount from Harley dealers online. They can afford to do this because they get such a large amount of sales. Plus they don't even have a lot of the things in stock. They order it from Harley after they have your money in hand. Usually takes them two weeks for them to get it in and then they send it to you. Have no problem with that......"


Like you, I agree we should all want our local dealers to make a profit because they will not stay in business long if they do not. However, I doubt if anyone here thinks we should just hand them a blank check and tell them to charge us whatever they want. The parts dept at my local dealer says, so to speak, pay the list price (the very high list price I might add) or hit the road; they never offer discounts or incentives that I know of. To me that policy is foolishnesses, and looses a lot of sales. No successful large retail store would do such a thing or their competition would crush them. I just bought a new bike from my local dealer, and then spent almost $2000.00 (with free shipping) at Surdyke for accessory parts. The same parts from my local dealer would have cost over $400 more plus tax. I'm sure Surdyke made a profit, and that profit could have gone to my local dealer if they offered some kind of incentive or discount. There are many marketing strategy's dealers could use if they took the time to learn them.

Now having said that, their parts dept could learn a lesson from their sales department, because their sales manager knew how to make a sale, and he did it by offering a discount. He sold me a new 09 Road Glide below list price, OTD. Now to be fair I doubt if he would do that very often because there were several unique factors involved in the sale, but never the less he got the sale and still made a profit. Harley Davidson and their dealers need to learn that they are no longer in a seller's market. Those with good marketing skills will still do well, but those that still try to manipulate their customers, often very loyal customers I might add, sadly may not survive.
 

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I guess some of us are just lucky to have dealers who respect thier customers and others like me have 7 stores/4 different dealers within a 70 mile radius and the have the ability to shop arround for the best deal. It seems most dealerships have thier quirks where they will not do one thing or another for the customer, but in the end they all have to provide some value or people will not keep coming back. There are simply too many options in the Market.
 

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I guess some of us are just lucky to have dealers who respect thier customers and others like me have 7 stores/4 different dealers within a 70 mile radius and the have the ability to shop arround for the best deal. It seems most dealerships have thier quirks where they will not do one thing or another for the customer, but in the end they all have to provide some value or people will not keep coming back. There are simply too many options in the Market.

You are correct, moreover to clarify my point, any dealer, as well as Harley Davidson Motor Co itself, had better realize they are no longer in a seller's market and therefore people will shop elsewhere unless they give their customers the best possible deal. The sales manager at my local dealer knew that concept and forced me to buy a Harley by giving me a price I couldn't refuse. He knew I had owned Harleys in the past, and felt that Harley's were good quality machines, but he also knew that I did not think too highly of the way Harley Davidson Motor Co. manipulates their customer loyalty, and therefore I would have no problem buying a non-Harley product. He also knew I was going to test ride other brand bikes (a Victory dealer was my next stop), and had just test rode a Can Am Spider (a nice machine in a few ways, but also very strange in others) so he stopped me in my tracks with his unbelievably low price. There were a few other unique factors involved in the pricing, but all in all that was good marketing on his part. Three years ago most Harley dealers would have said "this is the price (list price+ add-ons+ fees), take it or leave it." Many Harley parts departments still have that mentality and therefore lose a lot of potential sales.
 
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