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Inspect and replace old or questionable brake lines. Even though they don't look bad, they may still leave you stranded, or in a ditch somewhere.

Yesterday I had a seal in my brake system fail. Specifically, the seal where the rear brake line from the master cylinder meets the abs pump according to the dealer. Luckily, it was the back brake that failed. Could have been much worse.

Keep in mind my bike has less than 5k miles on it. I guess the bike spending it's life in the extreme temps/climate here in Arizona must have really wreaked havoc on that seal.....just an idea?

Don't neglect your bikes. Perform maintenance checks. They may save your life! I was lucky!

Will post some pics if I get any. No much to see other than brake fluid everywhere :crying:


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Glad to hear you are alright. Can see where that could have been catastrophic...
 

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Brake line failure at 5k isn't common at all, but I guess if I were in Arizona and constantly outside I'd fail also, lol. Seriously, not a normal thing, but it is very important to keep your brakes and fluids maintained, especially if you have ABS.
 
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For those who may be interested.

Inspect and replace old or questionable brake lines. Even though they don't look bad, they may still leave you stranded, or in a ditch somewhere.

Yesterday I had a seal in my brake system fail. Specifically, the seal where the rear brake line from the master cylinder meets the abs pump according to the dealer. Luckily, it was the back brake that failed. Could have been much worse.

Keep in mind my bike has less than 5k miles on it. I guess the bike spending it's life in the extreme temps/climate here in Arizona must have really wreaked havoc on that seal.....just an idea?

Don't neglect your bikes. Perform maintenance checks. They may save your life! I was lucky!

Will post some pics if I get any. No much to see other than brake fluid everywhere :crying:


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What year bike? Age makes a difference way more than mileage. Especially when exposed to UV radiation.
 

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For those who may be interested.

Inspect and replace old or questionable brake lines. Even though they don't look bad, they may still leave you stranded, or in a ditch somewhere.

Yesterday I had a seal in my brake system fail. Specifically, the seal where the rear brake line from the master cylinder meets the abs pump according to the dealer. Luckily, it was the back brake that failed. Could have been much worse.

Keep in mind my bike has less than 5k miles on it. I guess the bike spending it's life in the extreme temps/climate here in Arizona must have really wreaked havoc on that seal.....just an idea?

Don't neglect your bikes. Perform maintenance checks. They may save your life! I was lucky!

Will post some pics if I get any. No much to see other than brake fluid everywhere :crying:


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That's a safety defect. Either bad parts, bad engineering or bad workmanship. You were lucky, it was just an inconvenience for you. Do have a word with the dealer about what the fluid might have gotten on, and who pays to refinish those parts six months from now.

And do take a moment to log the issue with NHTSA. If people had logged all of the 1st gen anti-lock failures, we would have gotten a recall. But the MoCo was able to under report the problem and get off with writing a letter.

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I will definitely log the incident. You are right. I got extremely lucky. Honestly it made me shake my head and go take a walk to cool off once I had pulled off.

The first dealer with which Bought the bike from tried to give me the run-around over the phone before even looking at the bike. The second dealer agreed to tear it down. Neither dealer offered or agreed to pick the bike up even when I asked. Mind you I have the ESP on this bike.

I'm heading to the dealer right now to speak with the service manager. I'm sure that fluid like you said will wreak havoc on the paint. I want all of that taken care of down the line if it winds up discoloring the frame or anything of the like.


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What year bike? Age makes a difference way more than mileage. Especially when exposed to UV radiation.


The bike is a '13 and has spent the majority of its life garaged and covered. In my years of experience as a mechanic, I only have ever seen hard lines fail when they have been physically damaged/rusted/decades old. This, I have never seems before.


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Here is a photo of the ABS pump and the line. The line is the right hand line on the ABS pump.

My rear line had been replaced at some point with a braided line. The tech and I were both shocked to find that out. No reason for that line to be braided. But what happened originally to warrant that line being changed over to braided? As you can see, the vinyl covering over the line was melted. Weird.


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