[JLDowns]

Has anyone purchased and installed the "love jugs" cooling system or installed the fan forced oil cooler? I have been investigating both systems and hope to get insight form anyone with experience.

 

[Bandit 7]

Don't know about the fans you mentioned but check out wardspartswerks.com best fans on the market IMO and he also has a cooler running thermostat for the stock oil coolers. I've been running his stuff for 3 years now and love it. Several others on here run them as well.

 

[dbell66253]

I have the Ultra Cool reefer oil cooler and Wards Parts Werks fans, happy with both. I went with Wards over Love jugs because they are smaller and compliment the engine, not to mention Jason is a great guy and I followed his project from day one. I got a really good deal on the Ultra Cool because I had one of their original units.

 

[y2kflhr]

I have wards fans and I can highly recommend them!!! I sit in tons of traffic and the bike would constantly overheat and just run like crap, after the fans were installed I don't think I have ever gone into EITMS mode and the bike can sit in traffic with barely any effects, maybe a slight detonation here and there but before it sounded like it was going to explode!!!!

I saw the love jugs on a bike the other day and they were just too big for my liking

 

[cobra206]

+1 on the ultra cooler reefer. Have had it for a couple of years now and i love it.

 

[bambamortiz]

Don't know about the fans you mentioned but check out wardspartswerks.com best fans on the market IMO and he also has a cooler running thermostat for the stock oil coolers. I've been running his stuff for 3 years now and love it. Several others on here run them as well.

+1 they work and they look good!

 

[ironmark]

There is absolutely no need for a fan to cool the cylinders unless you are in stop and go city traffic all the time. All the cylinder fan does is blow extremely hot air on your right leg, you would be better off putting in a oil cooler fan.
Also either one of the fans are no good after the bike is rolling 15 mph.

 

[bebowebb]

A buddy of mine put Love Jugs on his Ultra and loves them.

He is a fellow Shriner and does a lot of parading on his bike. He said it makes a world of difference for him during parades on the hot days.

They don't look bad at all in my opinion, but they are a little large.

 

[y2kflhr]

There is absolutely no need for a fan to cool the cylinders unless you are in stop and go city traffic all the time. All the cylinder fan does is blow extremely hot air on your right leg, you would be better off putting in a oil cooler fan.
Also either one of the fans are no good after the bike is rolling 15 mph.

I hate to disagree with you, but I actually have tracked the temps on my bike with the power vision. The fans work great in stop and go traffic which we get a lot of in my neck of the woods but they also drop the temp close to 20 degrees in slow running conditions like a lazy ride, true they don't do much once you are on the highway, but that is never an issue. My bike was perpetually in EITMS mode and I had it shut down on me a few times and it would detonate like crazy in mild traffic all of those things are gone, if I sit in traffic I can watch the PV and see my temps going down 2 degrees at a time.

I was a huge skeptic of these and I proved myself wrong once I put them on.

 

[09Sharknose]

There is absolutely no need for a fan to cool the cylinders unless you are in stop and go city traffic all the time. All the cylinder fan does is blow extremely hot air on your right leg, you would be better off putting in a oil cooler fan.

Also either one of the fans are no good after the bike is rolling 15 mph.

From a physics standpoint, you proved the usefulness of the fan in your statement. That "extremely hot air" that is blowing on your right leg is the outcome of ambient air picking up the much hotter molecules on the cylinders and forcing them out the other side. The heat on your leg was once on your jugs. ?


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[y2kflhr]

and yes it does blow some hot air on your leg, but the difference between the hot air from the pipes and then the additional hot air is really minimal imho

 

[ironmark]

I hate to disagree with you, but I actually have tracked the temps on my bike with the power vision. The fans work great in stop and go traffic which we get a lot of in my neck of the woods but they also drop the temp close to 20 degrees in slow running conditions like a lazy ride, true they don't do much once you are on the highway, but that is never an issue. My bike was perpetually in EITMS mode and I had it shut down on me a few times and it would detonate like crazy in mild traffic all of those things are gone, if I sit in traffic I can watch the PV and see my temps going down 2 degrees at a time.

I was a huge skeptic of these and I proved myself wrong once I put them on.

You just proved my point! The fan is useful in city stop and go traffic.
If your bike detonates when it is hot then there is something wrong with the tune, The ECM should be set to adjust timing according to engine temp so when the engine gets hot the timing retards some to compensate for the heat.

 

[y2kflhr]

we are saying the same thing, the problem with NYC traffic is no tune in the world can compensate for these conditions that is a viable tune.

the only thing I would add is that the bike is cooler up to about 30 mph that's when i see no difference with the fan, I did some testing turning it on and off and watching the PV to see whether it made a difference.

 

[cobra206]

I ride in NYC, and I hate riding in the city. Traffic is so unpredictable, I have the baker oversized oil pan as well as the reefer oil cooler. In the worse of traffic my engine temp doesn't rise above 240, on average the temp doesn't climb above 225...

 

[y2kflhr]

I got stuck on the Cross Bronx the first few weeks I had the bike and there was an accident but no place for me to pull over I watched my temp climb to 400 and shut the bike down!!! it wouldn't start for a half our stuck against a guardrail!! you know your screwed when cab drivers offer you water.

 

[RideFar19]

I have an oil cooler by OilBud. I am very happy with my '13 since installing it. 1/2 the heat is off my right thigh. I almost sold my bike because of the excessive heat.

 

[perrykw]

I have the Ward's fans. Got them before Run for the Wall last year. I haven't conducted any scientific tests, but the bike seems to run much cooler. I also like the fact that they run for a few mins after I shut the bike down.

 

[glide69]

+1 on the ultra cooler reefer. Have had it for a couple of years now and i love it.

Another +1 for the ultra cooler

 

[JR_HD]

I installed my Wards fans a few weeks ago... The difference is incredible! I know many are not too interested in cooling their bike down right now, but I live in Hawaii. The traffic is horrendous! Stop and go combined with heat was making think about selling the RGU, I ride every day. After installing the fans, I rarely see any temps over 255 (viewed on PV tuner). Huge difference from watching them climb over 350 on a regular basis prior to the fans.


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[smitty901]

I have had outstanding results from the Lenale fan. If you want low cost effective oil cooler fans try Big Sky had their fans on 3 bikes with out a failure. They big sky fans are simple and easy to install
BIG SKY FAN
Don't kid your self to much on cooling the oil. HD engines do not flow enough oil to the heads to do much cooling once fully warmed up. However cooling the oil a bit can't hurt on a hot day.

This will give you an idea of the effect a lenale fan can have on head temps.

Lenale fan temps



No Harley was hurt in this test. Photos of temp displayed


Out side air was about 70 degrees
103 with lowers open
SYN 20/50 oil
Temp management off
No natural air flow
Started bike allowed to idle
At 261 turned on Fan
40 seconds dropped to 255
90seconds 239
120 seconds 225
at this point the drop slowed a bit
3 minutes 219
5 minutes holding 219 @ same 1000 rpms
7 minutes raised to 221
10 minutes 221 1000 rpms holding
Fan off
10 seconds 230
1 minute 248 climbing steady
1 minute 30 262
2 minutes 266
3 minutes 277
3minutes 20 280
4 minutes 293
FAN on drops of 1 degree per second or so
2 minutes 260
3 minutes 248
4 minutes slowed to 237
FAN off allowed to come to 331
Fan on
Fast drop
1 minute 289
came back down to 228

So there it is for now I will do more as I have time.
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