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First, hope this is the right place for this post.
So I’m curious as to how much people that have the Power Vision pay for a dyno tune. Not really interested in the other tuners.
I ride a 2012 RG Ultra w/2 into 1 V/H pro-Pipe and K&N air filter.
I did mine awhile back and was only charged $250. I had a good map from dyno jet already in there and all he basically did was smooth out the A/F mixture. Yeah, I got a bit more torque and power but he richened it up some to run cooler.
It’s in getting the TW222 cams installed so I thought about getting it dialed in again. Called Dyno-Tech down in Vegas and was quoted $400. Damn! They do come highly recommended from Dyno-jet. but damn! Is that about the average in price?
Biggest downside there is no one around here close that tunes with a power vision.
 

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I haven't had mine dyno tuned because mine came with a map from fuel moto that even my indy said would most likely be good, but he did tell me if I decided to have him dyno tune it he would charge $250 for the dyno tune. FWIW, he is a VERY experienced engine builder and is good at what he does, so he's not "cheap" because he has to be.
 

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Usually between 350-500 bucks. Finding a tuner to tune a powervision might be hard. I couldn't find one in Georgia. After talking to Dynojet about finding a tuner in my area they told me that they don't put alot of money into product training this is why PV tuners are few and far between.
 

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I also heard its $5k to take the training, add hotel, food travel and a week of work (easy over 10k) a lot of tuners not willing to spend that. I ran into similar issue, so got the pro tune. It tunes the bike with wide band sensors at 13.1AFR (then calculates to your set AFR table) versus the standard 14.6. to rich-in things up you can select the whole table and just add 5 or 10%. If you run a closed loop like 14.4 the bike will adjust using the narrow band sensors to maintain 14.4. If you can cross reference your setup or similar, S&S Cycle has several tunes that you can download.
The place near me charges a $69 Diagnose (5 to 6) runs. $250 for Custom mapping utilizes "Tuning Link" software for the best results. All throttle positions are mapped at 250 rpm increments. Includes before and after printouts and a copy of your map to take home.
 

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Whatever you do don't fall for that AUTOTUNE bullsh!t. Don't drink the koolaid I did twice I spent the cash for PV with autotune pro and when that didn't work correctly I wasted another 800.00 for thundermax. That's over 1600.00 down the freaking drain.

I should of found a local tuner and asked his advise.

The autotune stuff adjust fuel and NEVER timing. If your base tune is close it works good. But if your base tune is off which it will unless you have exactly what the base map has.
 

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My dyno tune was $400, but not with the PV. My tuner said he would tune with whatever I had or would sell my one of his. Think he is either a direct link or tts.
 

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I have the Thundermax and yes it is correct that the auto tuner only auto tunes the AFR.
Since you don't need to worry about tuning the AFR it is one less thing to worry about, you can richen or lean out the AFR if you want.
Any base map will need timing adjustment unless you get extremely lucky. Adjusting the timing on the T-Max is easy to do and you would just need a few riding sessions to get the timing right. Most people don't take the time to learn how to adjust the timing with a auto tuner and they also don't have the patience to try.
Yes a auto tuner isn't for everyone and even some people with auto tuners have their bikes dyno tuned but if you a person that likes to DIY using a auto tuner and learning how to make adjustment yourself is beneficial.
I have a Thundermax auto tuner and I made all my timing adjustments and my bike runs great.
A typical dyno tune cost $300 to $500 and there is no guarantee that the dyno operator knows what he is doing so you could be just wasting your money.
 

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I had the tmax on my 124 and I thought it ran great until I had it tuned. I just thought it should be better. I ran my bike against another bike with a 103 with a cam and pipe and we were neck to neck and I knew that wasn't right.

I found a local tuner that tunes TTS that was trained my Doc Weaver. I had him do a base run with the tmax. He made 5 runs and the best was 103hp and 110tq. The A/Rs were all over the place. That's not any better than a 103 with a cam. Then I had him tune the bike with tts. 123hp and 133tq with a slipping clutch. Now we are talking!! That's huge. Now the bike flat out runs like a scolded dog. It sounds different and runs very smooth. Now for the 8 bills I spent for the tmax vs the 8 bills for the tts and tune.I think the dyno tune won. I just dropped it off and he did all the work.
 

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anyone who can tune with a tts can tune with a powervision, I saw it for myself! Dave (the wizard) at Pocono HD was trained by Doc and he loves the tts, my buddy had his bike on daves dyno and after some getting used to the unit he did just fine with it. If a tuner doesn't want to tune one its because he is lazy (IMHO).
 

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I had mine dyno'ed in SLC and I guess it was ok. Just put in the 222 cams and fuelmoto sent me a tune to download but I know it isnt going to be "right on". just a starting point. Nearest other place is in Vegas and he charges $400. might have to take a long weekend! lol. Thinking I should have went with the PCV since everyone seems to tune with that..
 

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Kinda late, but can't you get a PCV tune and import it into the PV? I though I read on one of the forums that it can be done. I need to do some more research on that if I want a dyno tune for my 2015 RGS with stage 1. Right now I have the tune Jamie at FM sent. I hope to get a ride tomorrow before it gets too hot.
 

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Kinda late, but can't you get a PCV tune and import it into the PV? I though I read on one of the forums that it can be done. I need to do some more research on that if I want a dyno tune for my 2015 RGS with stage 1. Right now I have the tune Jamie at FM sent. I hope to get a ride tomorrow before it gets too hot.
Allegedly you can use the PCV tunes on the PV. I am going to have mine tuned once I get the bike back together from installing apes. Local Indy prefers PCV but said he will also tune with PV.
 
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