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I disagree. They are really nice and good performing pipes with a recore from Fullsac. Lots of guys run them and they make great power. The chrome on them holds up really well too. That's why I've bought them. Problem is that it takes another $150 in parts to make them perform so if you pay too much for them them it doesn't pencil. I'd actually rather run these mufflers recored rather than most of the other brands out there.
 

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When you do the cores it is worth it to order the screens to hold the packing and to reuse or replace the packing in them. Gives the pipes a deeper tone and much better sound IMO.
 
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