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Has anyone else with Black Denim experienced what looks like water marks/spots in their paint? When I say in, I mean it's not coming off with a microfiber and ammonia free windex, HD denim cleaner, car wash detergent, etc. It's there, and it ain't f*@k'n around about holding on tight.

Backstory: We moved over this past fall and the bike shared a NTU two-car garage with the wife's daily driver over the winter. I'm in PA, so we're talking snow and salt coming into the garage via her ride. It's not being splashed around while she rolls in at 2mph, but it's there. I noticed in the late winter / early spring that the heat from her vehicle in combination with the moisture she was bringing into the garage with it was causing a lot of condensation to form on the garage door windows - two garage doors, one per stall. It was getting humid/stuffy in there. Because I was doing minor stuff with the bike over the winter, I never covered it. I noticed the spots late spring. But, I also didn't notice any other oxidation/corrosion on the bikes chrome or paint and these marks seem to be localized mainly to the rear fender...closest to the garage door (bike is pulled straight in just like the car is and the rear end is a few feet from the garage door). No drips or over head leaks onto the bike.

Any ideas? Nothing has ever been over-sprayed onto the bike (to the best of my knowledge). Any Denim owners out there run into these spots/marks before?
 

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I don't think that's your issue. I live down here in Texas near Houston and I have those same permanent water spots and all that happens down here is maybe get caught in some rain and intense sun. Unfortunately, I think it's just a downside to this denim black.
 

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Funny I too live in Houston (Richmond) but I havent experienced any of that yet. I got caught in the rain last week and havent had a chance to wipe the bike down so now I'm wondering if ima have the same issue. Also notice that the Denim spray you buy from the dealership leaves smudge marks whenever I use it but windex doesnt.
 

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My bike has a lot of those water spots to. I believe that is how this paint builds its character at least that was what they said when I bought her.
 

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I live in ohio, I use dawn for soap when i wash it and wipe it down with windex,I dont have the permanent spots.
 

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Appreciate the replies and would still like to hear from others, especially if anyone has found a way to get rid of the spots.

I agree, I don't think it's directly from the salt on the car 10' away. But the thing is - it's never sat wet. And, it wasn't caught in the rain. In between washes I too always used ammonia free windex.

The next move is a hot bath with Dawn. Christ, that sounds SOOOO much better than it's going to be :D ...
 

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Maybe a picture of the spots may help? I have spotting on my bike on the lids, but it doesnt look like water spots.
 

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it wasn't caught in the rain. In between washes I too always used ammonia free windex.

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when i got my 2010, hd didn't have all their denim specific cleaning products. in the manual, they recommended using windex with ammonia on the paint. ammonia free on the windshield only. i found the ammonia free streaks more....
 

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Sorry for the delay in reply, but here's the pics. Trak, is this what you're seeing too?

Haven't had time for a bath. Been building another single stall garage. Not for this reason...LOL. I just have too much shit and a son that's sure to have more toys than his ole man...soon as he's outta diapers ;)

Hopefully you can see it in the pics. See what you guys think.
 

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I used Merzerna's Intense Polish and Final Polish, depending on the level of spots

my half assed version, which maintains well is some Final Polish and SprayWay followed by Protect All and more Spray Way

I also have put Full Metal Jacket on once, but it whited out in the sun, then tried NXT nano wax, still whited out, so no wax, except for Protect All, but usually just a residual amount

I start with Sprayway amonia free cleaner, clean in the shade on a cool bike,
then rinse with Gilmour foamer, with 3/4 water, S100, whatever spot free car wash is available, Show Shine at the moment, but Meguiars NXT wash, some Detailers APC, hydrogen peroxide for bugs

letting both baths dwell 5 minutes

power spray off

and there's always the clay method

I used the denim cleaner in there somewhere in the mix also
 
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