I am beside myself that the assembly line and/or quality control would let that go. Wires just can't bend like that and be expected to go the distance. Crazy that it wouldn't trip a code at some point or at least flag a historical code due to how intermittent the connection sounds.
Good post, hopefully those with the newer models see this before they end up with an issue.

 

I am beside myself that the assembly line and/or quality control would let that go. Wires just can't bend like that and be expected to go the distance. Crazy that it wouldn't trip a code at some point or at least flag a historical code due to how intermittent the connection sounds.
Good post, hopefully those with the newer models see this before they end up with an issue.

I agree man. They always preach not to bend wires like that and then they do that at the factory 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m wondering if this one got to be this bad because it’s a 23.5 model and the wires work hardened. I don’t understand why they even thought that was needed. Lol

 

Current hires, tough to find people that have a good work ethic, plus staff shortages.

 

Agree! When you see my posts or talk to me in person and I say "COVID build", this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about.

 

God damn Murph

 

Is this the same repair that @B407driver had to have done to fix his?

 

Yes and no. Same part of the bike, different physical causes. While I firmly believe the zip tie caused both bike’s problems, this had broken wires and his had damaged pins from the tension.

 

Just cut mine off a few minutes ago. Thanks for the notice.

 

My wiring looked good but that sure was a hard bind in the wiring! Cut off the tie-wrap and let the harness "relax".

Good lookin' out crazy4ink!

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I don't know what camera you use for taking pictures, but these are some pretty damn good shots in a tight spot.

 

Thanks for that find ! Just snipped it off, very tight bend and I don’t see a reason for it, to keep harness away from the cylinder ?

 

Thanks for the heads up. Just snipped mine as well.

 

Wish I was smart enough to understand this shit.....I got lost in the Blue Foot Boards

 

Same. It was on there tight. Cut it off and let it breathe, lol.

 

Did you have to replace the cord? This just happened to my bike. Only one cylinder is activating.

 

Just take it to the dealer and point them at potential solution. It’s under warranty so whether they decide to change a harness or repair it isn’t that important.

 

Thanks just went into the garage and snipped mine also.

 

Don't forget about the EITMS Engine Temperature Management feature that shuts the rear cylinder off under certain circumstances. While flashing my 24 today, we turned off that feature in the ECM. I've never seen it happen even on super hot days last Summer, but then again my 24 never gets super hot like my Rushmore bikes did. If you don't know EITMS exists, it may shake you to the core when your rear cyclinder cuts out at a red light.

This guy explains it.

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As soon as I saw you posted that I went right outside to look. Man if that isn’t the dumbest factory work.

 

This didn't apply to me when I read it back in April, but my brain was saying...."isn't there a zip tie that @crazy4ink told everyone to cut by the coil"? I couldn't remember the title or if he actually started the thread so it took me a bit to find.

Glad I did because mine was bent beyond 90 degrees. lol Posting so this will get brought back up in the threads again for all the new bike owners.

 

Thanks for bringing that thread up ! I cut it on my 24 and completely forgot about it - just went and cut it on my 25

 

I cut mine over the winter when @crazy4ink posted this notice. Last week my bike started cutting to one cylinder intermittently and throwing a code for the front coil (P2300 -- Ignition Coil Driver Low/Open - Front). My dealership tested and found the coil to be on its way out. They ordered a new one and my bike has been running great again since.

 

Had my '24 limp on one cylinder this past weekend, threw up the yellow check engine light. Shut her down, yet the light remained. Checked for codes, none listed. Decided to ride it to my local HD dealer, she ran like normal all the way there. Got the service manager scratching his head....then out of nowhere the light goes out. All is well, but still drove me nuts as to why it went limp.

Now, it was blistering hot, 96+ here in east TN that day, and it happened about 10 minutes after a quick stop at a gas station. Bad gas? EITMS? I had no idea till I saw this post. I'll check that coil zip tie as soon as I get home today. You guys rock, and typically know more than techs at HD. Keep up the great work.

 

Cut the zip tie and check to make sure the pins and the wires in the connector aren't damaged

 

Removed that zip tie, my pins and wires all appeared to be fine. Maybe that time was there to keep the wire from possibly coming into contact with the heads? And just an assumption.....the sheathing around the coil wires has enough insulation in case contact is made? What do y'all think?

 

Got to see this first hand the other day on a CVO. I cut the zip tie off and disconnected the harness so I could straighten the wires out. I then reintroduced a curve into the harness that was more gradual and the harness is closer to the heads but not anywhere near touching. I'm pretty confident you'll be fine.

 

Whelpppppppp....I think this got me today. I clipped the zip tie a couple weeks ago after having the bike for only a month. 117 miles from the house, I'm deep in the carpool lane, 2000 miles behind me, day 7 of a road trip and I start feeling the bike lugging. Change in sound. Feeling that I can't really explain. Rough vibration. Slow acceleration. Veered it all the way from the left lane to the far right (4 lanes of Nashville rush hour traffic) and about 3-5 miles of limping it to a known gas station. I wasn't going to break down on the side of the interstate again. I'm not going to say anything about one dealership and how helpful they were. Called Nick at Moonshine though as I was about 10 miles away from them. He started asking around and no one could break free so I called HOG roadside assistance. Had a tow truck in front of me within 45 minutes of calling and the bike loaded in route to Moonshine.

They told me that they have been calling in at least 2-3 of these a week. Said it was the wiring. Texted @crazy4ink and his exact words "I believe someone that looked like me told you to cut that zip tie." I responded in kind, I did but I didn't chase the wiring to check to see if the damage was done. Now the bike is sitting in Franklin, TN while I'm home unable to complete my first road trip on the new bike. I feel like a failure.

Does HOG cover rental car expenses? Asking for a friend. lol

 

"Customer states..... I'm stuck on the side of the road..."

 

This really needs to become a formal recall.

 

That's what Moonshine is pushing for. They alert the MoCo with every warranty call they get on them. Seems that they are seeing more with the CVO's than the regular models, but still getting them across the board. Hopefully they will get the official call out soon.

 

I’m so glad I did this when I first got mine. My harness was jacked up pretty good when I got it. Snipped it and smoothed it out. Checked the wires and pins/plug and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary but you never know

 

Samesies...I feel such problems should be beneath us CVO types.

Precisely .... the Masses, I swear......

 

I cut the zip tie months ago when DannyDaPorkchop told me about it and the wires appear to be undamaged. At 15,000 miles I assume I would have already had an issue if there was damage? This should definitely be a recall but I have little hope of that when they are still installing this damn zip tie in production!!!

 

Thanks for the tip, just went and checked my new 25 Road glide and sure enough, coil lead was folded tight and zip tied. I cut it and relaxed the fold into a gentle loop and it sits nicely between the cylinders. A side note, I happened to see the shader valve cap on the fuel line didn’t look right…it was barely on as someone at the factory or the dealer almost cross threaded the plastic cap and I guess since it wouldn’t easily turn more they thought it was on. No big deal, just a plastic screw on cap but this new bike was expensive enough, I expect perfection!

 

Confirmed that I have at least one broken wire from the zip tie. There also appears to be a code that keeps popping up that they are investigating. My service advisor was out of the office yesterday when I called so I need to talk with him to get the full skinny.

Note, I cut the zip tie on mine at probably 500 miles and it didn't show up as a problem until close to 4000 miles. If you cut the tie already, you may want to slide the wiring cover back and investigate the integrity of the wires before you get stranded. I got pretty lucky with where mine happened.