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After reading many posts and saving my money, I installed my Alpine 149bt head unit in my 06 RG with the hawg wired kit for both hand controls and mounting. At the same time I also added a Sound stream 520 amp and Hertz speakers.
Long story short, everything works fine except my hand controls.
I will check all my connections and wiring and it works in my garage. I button it all up , and go for a ride, 10 seconds in, the volume control stops working. Then it will not work again. every other function works and I have no issues with them. I could live with this even though it drives me crazy, but then at random times it will start raising the volume ,(or lowering) to the max limit and stay there like I'm holding my finger on the button. The only way to get it back working is to pull over, shut engine off,(because the off button on the stereo doesn't work with the volume being stuck) then turn it back on. That always fixes it ! If it were a bad switch or short, I would think this would not make a difference.
I have checked all the wiring many times, no short, or pinched wires can be found. I'm just about to sell the whole lot and go back to the stock HK unit. At least all the controls work on it.
Anyone here ever had a similar issue? Any advice would be appreciated!
 

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im running same deck and amp,and have had similar issues,all controls working fine,then nothing at all then ten minutes down the road same thing,it gets to be a pita for sure.i talked with hawgwired and they told me there controller is solid state and it either works or it doesn't,and that most likely the blue wire plugging into the back of the headunit is loose and while riding it vibrates around causing this issue,i pulled my fairing off and found all wires on controller tight and the blue wire seemed fine,i then taped the blue wire into back of headunit to see if that would help,still doing the same thing,im interested in others experiences with this and possibly a fix.
 

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I feel a lot better just knowing this is a common problem.
I could even live without the volume control. I do like all the other functions that work fine , like mute, changing tracks, source change, pause,etc.
I wonder if there is a way to just disable the volume control part?
Probably just wishful thinking.
 

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I have again spent a large amount of my day going the manual to the Alpine deck. It says on page 27 of the owners manual, That you can calibrate the steering wheel buttons if you do the following :press and hold the audio button, then go to general using the search (volume ) button and then a go to a section on steering controls.
I don't have that option when I get there! very frustrating! anyone else have this option?
Also, Alpine has a universal steering wheel adapter for this stereo. Does anyone know anything about that?
 

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After reading many posts and saving my money, I installed my Alpine 149bt head unit in my 06 RG with the hawg wired kit for both hand controls and mounting. At the same time I also added a Sound stream 520 amp and Hertz speakers.
Long story short, everything works fine except my hand controls.
I will check all my connections and wiring and it works in my garage. I button it all up , and go for a ride, 10 seconds in, the volume control stops working. Then it will not work again. every other function works and I have no issues with them. I could live with this even though it drives me crazy, but then at random times it will start raising the volume ,(or lowering) to the max limit and stay there like I'm holding my finger on the button. The only way to get it back working is to pull over, shut engine off,(because the off button on the stereo doesn't work with the volume being stuck) then turn it back on. That always fixes it ! If it were a bad switch or short, I would think this would not make a difference.
I have checked all the wiring many times, no short, or pinched wires can be found. I'm just about to sell the whole lot and go back to the stock HK unit. At least all the controls work on it.
Anyone here ever had a similar issue? Any advice would be appreciated!
Do you have a powervision?
 

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I feel a lot better just knowing this is a common problem.
I could even live without the volume control. I do like all the other functions that work fine , like mute, changing tracks, source change, pause,etc.
I wonder if there is a way to just disable the volume control part?
Probably just wishful thinking.
I just installed the Alpine 149bt with the HW adapter and have had no issues... I did use some electrical tape to just help hold everything together but over 1k since the upgrade and no issues so far.....
 

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Do you have a powervision?
I'm not sure what that is so, no.
I spent an hour on the phone after work today with Rich at Hawgwired! He was patient with me and we worked through a couple things. I can get it to work most of the time now, but not every time. Rich thinks its an Alpine jack issue. It seems to not fit in the jack as tight as it should? When I put the 3.5mm plug into any other jack, it feels like it engages, but when I put it in the Steering Wheel Control jack on the radio, it seems like It doesn't have a good mechanical click. It seems to come out very easily without much force, and when I took the fairing off this time, it had vibrated out about 1/2 mm. That may have been because the last time I tried a different down angle against the bottom of the bracket that holds the radio.

I also talked to a audio tech who said he was familiar with the hawgwired setup. He thinks that the hawgwired adapters are junk and says he's seen and heard of a lot of issues. Who knows, he may be just blowing smoke up my @$$!
Next stop, Alpine tech support to see if they think the plug could be the issue. If so, hopefully I can get a new unit or this repaired, because I bought it online from Amazon, and Friday was 30 days since I received it, so they won't exchange it.
After I got off the phone with Rich, they were gone for the day!
Anyone else ever notice how tight the plug was on the back of the HU?
I'm grasping at straws at this point.
 

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Don't have the hawg wired but the plug on the biketronics fit tight, no issues at all. Can you return or exchange the adapter? If don't work they should work with you as many hold their customer service to a high standard.


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Don't have the hawg wired but the plug on the biketronics fit tight, no issues at all. Can you return or exchange the adapter? If don't work they should work with you as many hold their customer service to a high standard.


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I have permission to send it back for a replacement, but now I'm wondering if the plug on the Alpine HU is the problem.


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I spent another five hours today hunting down problems and talking to Alpine tech support. From what I told them, they figured it was probably a bad plug in the head unit. I got another unit today and tried it and all was well until I started and took it for a ride. It then started doing the exact same thing. Soooo frustrated!


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You have the universal adapter. But I'm sure it's the same as the Sony version. I found the adapter to be impossible to REALLY lock into place. I ran a couple zip ties around the adapter to the OEM connector. Cranked em down pretty tight. You might try that.
 

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I've put zip ties on every possible connection I can find. Other that the little 3.5 mm plug into the back, they are as solid as possible. I'm just starting to think these alpine stereos don't play nice with the Hawg wired adapter.


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I also talked to a audio tech who said he was familiar with the hawgwired setup. He thinks that the hawgwired adapters are junk and says he's seen and heard of a lot of issues.
I call BS on this "audio tech". I would take what he says with a grain of salt. Let me guess, he's probably an authorized PAC distributor?

I've used both HW and BT control modules for years in roadies and batwings and NEVER had a problem with one

Powervision is the tuner from DynoJet/Fuelmoto. I'm seeing issues with it interfering with hand controls when it's in gauge mode.

Have you changed anything else on the bike lately? Handlebars, grips, anything electrical?
 

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I'm not sure what that is so, no.
I spent an hour on the phone after work today with Rich at Hawgwired! He was patient with me and we worked through a couple things. I can get it to work most of the time now, but not every time. Rich thinks its an Alpine jack issue. It seems to not fit in the jack as tight as it should? When I put the 3.5mm plug into any other jack, it feels like it engages, but when I put it in the Steering Wheel Control jack on the radio, it seems like It doesn't have a good mechanical click. It seems to come out very easily without much force, and when I took the fairing off this time, it had vibrated out about 1/2 mm. That may have been because the last time I tried a different down angle against the bottom of the bracket that holds the radio.

I also talked to a audio tech who said he was familiar with the hawgwired setup. He thinks that the hawgwired adapters are junk and says he's seen and heard of a lot of issues. Who knows, he may be just blowing smoke up my @$$!
Next stop, Alpine tech support to see if they think the plug could be the issue. If so, hopefully I can get a new unit or this repaired, because I bought it online from Amazon, and Friday was 30 days since I received it, so they won't exchange it.
After I got off the phone with Rich, they were gone for the day!
Anyone else ever notice how tight the plug was on the back of the HU?
I'm grasping at straws at this point.
Grab your service manual and use it to find inside the fairing, connector 24A (grey plug) and disconnect it.

Volume up is pin # 10 Green/Blue
Volume down is pin # 11 Grey/Green
Pin # 12 is ground
this is going to the handlebar controls

grab a digital meter.
measure resistance between pin 10 and pin 12 while pressing volume up.
measure resistance between pin 11 and pin 12 while pressing volume down.

if either of these measure higher than .5 ohms replace the volume control switch.
 

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I agree. I am going to go through all the pins again this weekend.
As far as changing anything, I painted my inner fairing and added the amp /speakers. Other than that, I relocated my ballasts for my HID lights to the sides of my outer fairing to allow room for the amp.


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Take this for what it is worth but I had the same exact setup on mine with the same problems. I figured it was the Apline 149bt and replaced it with a Kenwood KDC 998. I have had no problems since and am very pleased with the kenwood. I was a little afraid of being able to see the screen but with all the adjustments it has not been an issue for me.
 

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Subscribed. Just recieved my 149bt today...waiting on the hawg wired set up. Wont be together for about a week yet but I'll keep you posted if I run into the same problem. It'll be my first full stereo install so my expectations are real low lol :eek:
 

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I've been using a Hawgwired adapter with different radios since 07 with no issues, I also bought the Alpine because of the reviews and my previous experience with the brand. I am going to try to get mine installed soon, if there are any problems, I will post, but I agree with Ultra, if there is a problem I won't be blaming the HW adapter.
 
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