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I'll have a deposit on one by week's end. It's down to whether it's, "in addition to" or, "instead of".
I loved my GS/A, and had it not been for the ungodly amount of oil it burned, I'd still have it. No motorcycle has ever put a smile on my face like that one did. The PA is lighter, has more power and torque, won't sound like a farm tractor, and has a far, far better dealer network/service environment. The P&A prices aren't out of line, and those are good SW-Motech cases.
Smitty, ya gotta stop doing those cornfield get-off stunts, leave that for the young guys! I haven't watched the video yet, do they give seat height in their site? I guess we'll have to wait several months to find out much more about the effectiveness of the motor (what's the torque curve look like?), and I'd expect the suspension to be biased towards the asphalt, but we'll have to see. On the surface, I agree with you that this might just end up being a darned good Sport Touring/Lite Touring bike.
I so wanted one of these, could not get it to fit me. I just sold my 690 and thinking about another xr650 or a t700.
If I decide to get one . My RG limited is staying no madder what. I will also wait until HD wakes up and supplies a few more to dealers. You can see what they are up to now.
I never understood the whole thing with the metal panniers/bags. They are well known to be leg breakers in relatively mild get-offs. Somehow the metal panniers and TP became the iconic 'look' of an AT bike so the marketing depts. of all the manufacturers followed (and continue to follow) along. The MoCo could have really changed that by offering heavy duty soft bags and trunk AND explain in their advertising WHY they did that. Just once you'd like to see HD introduce something new first and not always be one of the last to market. Their going forward look into the future seems to always be into a mirror.
So just how many Benjamns over MSRP do you figure it'll cost? You know that demand will be high (unless impartial reviews kill it) and supply will be short. It's the 80s/90s all over again! (for this one model)
First off, you are supposed to take those metal boxes off before venturing onto technical trails. Second, watch the video. HD came out with 3 styles of bags ranging from the boxes to soft bags. They all look really nice.
I have met a few riders that have circled the globe and they all preferred metal bags. They would protect cameras and computers in a spill, were usually better waterproofing, and could be stacked/carted easily when they needed to bring them inside when at a sketchy area.
Good luck on the Yamaha.. My buddy has been waiting four months for one to show up.
Zero for me. I won't pay a premium, and never understood anyone willing to. Yes, there are certain things I may never own, but that doesn't bother me. What allows me to fall asleep at night is knowing I could lose my job and not have to sell anything to eat.
...at least the ones who hadn't gone down and had a hard pannnier snap their leg like a toothpick! I have no skin in this game as I'll likely never own one of this category of bikes, but it's well known that hard panniers break significantly more legs than riding without bags or with softbags. Again, I guess it depends where they're being ridden and how hard.
A reasonable 31.1" when laden. The high end model has a feature that lowers the bike as you come to a stop.
+1 I couldn't agree more. Not be willing to pay more than MSRP, or not being willing to be forced to buy a bike with $2,500. of P&A stuff on it that I had no interest in, is the single reason it took me 10-15 years longer to buy my first HD than it could have. There's plenty of gross profit margin when selling at MSRP. I'd add that I've never come close to paying full MSRP for any vehicle I've owned. There's nothing outside a "numbers" Ferrari that I'd even consider paying over MSRP for.
With the hard bags you have to be willing to let the bike go and bail. If you throw a stiff leg down trying to save it, then bad things happen. Watch the Long Way Round to see some bail outs.
