I used to run a Klockwerks and it was OK but it was not what I wanted. I run a 12" Windvest for a year and then I went to a 14" Windvest, the 14" has been the best for me so far, I look about 2" over the top of the windshield.Thank you for the explanation. I have never seen the madsted. I'll have to try this. The buffeting around the ears is driving me nuts. I moved to the 12" and it make a huge difference but now the buffeting is under the chin.