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So I've been looking into swapping my 11' Street Glide, in for the 15' RGS. The marketing that has been done by HD has caught my attention, and so now I am just trying to clear a few things up, before making the next big purchase.

I'm wondering how many of you have performed the mapping and or software updates to your Infotainment system since getting your Rushmore RG?

Has the upgrade worked as expected? Are the map updates current? Did you have to pay anything for the updated maps, or did you get the map update from your dealer, before taking the new beast home?

I've been informed by my sales guy and his sales mgr, that the GPS system is Garmin based, so are the map updates thru Garmin or thru HD?
 

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Not sure on the maps. I know the system itself you can download updates for the firmware through MoCo.
 

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I don't know if the GPS system is Garmin-based, but I've been told this by riding buddies who have the newer scoots:
1.) They can import .gpx files, just like a Garmin
2.) The GPS system pales compared to standalone GPS systems
 

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I love my GPS on my 2015! The lane assist pictures look very realistic, all the options are very easy to access. And don't even get me started on the "Scenic" and "Twisties" route options! I've used mine a lot and coming from a RoadTech 660, it took a small amount of getting used to, mainly due to the physical interface. But the roads I've found using the Scenic and Twisties alone have made me really happy I bought the bike!
I would like to know myself how the map updates are, I haven't bothered updating yet....too busy riding!!!....and modding.
 

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With a little digging and searching, I've discovered the GPS system has NOTHING to do with Garmin, or any other well known nav system developer.

It was a joint partnership by MOCO, with a company called NaviExtras ( https://harley-davidson.naviextras.com/shop/portal ) Map upgrades come at a cost of $149 - $159, and the most recent upgrade showing on their web site is dated 2013 Q2. :mad:

How is it that I am about to buy a 2015 Project Rushmore motorcycle, and yet the most recent map upgrade available for these Harley Davidson motorcycles is dated the 2nd quarter of 2013?

Just looked, and the Garmin unit on my BMW K1600 was last updated Dec 2014.

How is MOCO charging for the grand Project Rushmore Infotainment system, that isn't current or updated at the time of purchase in 2015, and when the owner tries to update this amazing Infotainment system, the best they can get is 2013 Q2...and pay $149-$159 to purchase....2 year old mapping.

REALLY.....shocking how MOCO plays its loyal customers for such fools
 

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My '11 FLTRU uses a Garmin Nuvi 56LMT. Just updated the map last weekend, for free (version 2015.40).
 

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I love my GPS on my 2015! The lane assist pictures look very realistic, all the options are very easy to access. And don't even get me started on the "Scenic" and "Twisties" route options! I've used mine a lot and coming from a RoadTech 660, it took a small amount of getting used to, mainly due to the physical interface. But the roads I've found using the Scenic and Twisties alone have made me really happy I bought the bike!
I would like to know myself how the map updates are, I haven't bothered updating yet....too busy riding!!!....and modding.
+1 on that! I have only put on 5k miles so far, as I live in the snowy north, but couldn't agree more! Very happy!

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Does it have the Harley Dealers pre-loaded, even with wrong addresses?
So you just create a route in gpx format & upload it to the unit? Can you have more than one route loaded & choose which one you want??

It definitely isn't Garmin based, which was a big disappointment to me. I don't think they wanted to pay the licensing fee for Garmin, so they went & found a cheaper source - SHOCKING

Now they have made improvements on it since it first came out, like being able to add more waypoints. I think the limit it 100 now.
 

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Does it have the Harley Dealers pre-loaded, even with wrong addresses?
So you just create a route in gpx format & upload it to the unit? Can you have more than one route loaded & choose which one you want??

It definitely isn't Garmin based, which was a big disappointment to me. I don't think they wanted to pay the licensing fee for Garmin, so they went & found a cheaper source - SHOCKING

Now they have made improvements on it since it first came out, like being able to add more waypoints. I think the limit it 100 now.
Yes and yes.
 

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Did they fix Fink's address? LOL
Only time I've ever used it was to find your house that day. Haven't bothered to program anything into it yet. Just from reading on the forums is how I get so much info.
 

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I really don't understand people's fixation with updated GPS maps?? 99% of the roads we have now have been here for a LONG time, and very few of them are going away. Yes, there are a few new roads here and there, but damn few in the grand scheme of things.
They don't update paper maps all that often either.

Garmin??
Don't even get me started there, other than to say for a company whose job it is to help people find where they're going, they do a damn poor job of it.
 

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I really don't understand people's fixation with updated GPS maps?? 99% of the roads we have now have been here for a LONG time, and very few of them are going away. Yes, there are a few new roads here and there, but damn few in the grand scheme of things.
They don't update paper maps all that often either.

Garmin??
Don't even get me started there, other than to say for a company whose job it is to help people find where they're going, they do a damn poor job of it.
Can only speak for myself... I'm not fixated on updates, but the GPS should get updated periodically.

I move my Garmin between the scoot and any other vehicle I may be driving.

Not sure where you get the 99% number, but out west there is still lots of construction going on, including roads. And my GPS has a traffic feature that will re-route me around delays, sometimes saving significant time.

I cover 13 states for work and a paper map doesn't help me find a specific address in a city that I'm unfamiliar with. I can find the city, but most maps lack the detail to locate an address. Just another perspective.
 

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Firmware is handled through the HD site. Map update is through Navi-extras. The manual states 1 free map update for non-CVO-s and 3 free map updates for CVO's. When you download your system info onto a thumb drive and insert it in the computer and bring up Navi-extras you will see a free download. Yes, I agree after that it is way too expensive.
The Navi has a few archaic features if you are comparing to your Zumo's.
Yes, you can have quite a few gpx maps in the Navi at one time. I'm not sure how much memory it holds but every gpx you use, it saves the waypoints. I go in once a month and delete them.
Since the last firmware upgrade for 100 waypoints, the Navi has performed well. it still has a few quirks.
Updates are pretty fast compared to the garmin.
 

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Not sure where you get the 99% number, but out west there is still lots of construction going on, including roads. And my GPS has a traffic feature that will re-route me around delays, sometimes saving significant time.

I cover 13 states for work and a paper map doesn't help me find a specific address in a city that I'm unfamiliar with. I can find the city, but most maps lack the detail to locate an address. Just another perspective.

Perspective understood, and amazingly this is one area where Harley shines with the availability of Ride Planner. Garmin SUCKS in it's availability of a real route planning application that actually works. No, I never have made Base Camp or whatever the hell it is work, literally pisses me off in seconds every time I try to play with it.

Traffic, if I didn't have a personal riding rule to go FAR around any city with more than 2 - 4 lane roads intersecting, I guess I'd have to worry about traffic. Unless I run across some massive cluster out in the middle of nowhere, I typically don't have a traffic issue.
 

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I just started doing the research on this in preparation for our midwest-to-coast trip this summer. $150. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. ONE - HUNDRED- AND - FIFTY - DOLLARS. That is the MOST RIDICULOUS THING THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD. It makes me want to rip the infotainment unit out of the fairing and shove it up the backside of whatever idiotic greedy executive was responsible for that f*d up deal. I just can't express how dismayed I am. I would expect $150 for a lifetime upgrade option. I would expect $30 for a map upgrade. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. Holy crap.

I bought a 15 Road Glide Special. I love it. But I've replaced the seat, grips, levers, headers, air cleaner, mufflers, and shocks. I can't hear the radio at speed, so I never use it. It won't talk to my Sena or my Scala. It has comms features I can't use on the special. It finds the porn on my phone and plays it when I just want to charge it. There are a bunch of glitches in the nav unit that drive me bananas on a long trip. Seriously, the software in that unit sucks. And the map upgrade costs ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. I still can't get over it. I googled Google to find out what it cost me to get the latest map on my phone. ZERO DOLLARS. ZEEEEERO.

In retrospect, I should not have paid for the special. That was a mistake. Actually, two mistakes. I bought two. One for me and one for my wife. We've both replaced all the same stuff. And, by the way, Russell Cycle Day Long Saddle.

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. Holy crap.
 

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You have to buy the map packs. I'm in Korea and check every so often cuz u can't get em here. Something about the North Korean baddie bads having access. So the bike gps just shows the land. Any how. U buy em and that's how u get it. They release every so often. I have bought the upgrade once for my car. Would image it's the same
 

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I just started doing the research on this in preparation for our midwest-to-coast trip this summer. $150. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. ONE - HUNDRED- AND - FIFTY - DOLLARS. That is the MOST RIDICULOUS THING THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD. It makes me want to rip the infotainment unit out of the fairing and shove it up the backside of whatever idiotic greedy executive was responsible for that f*d up deal. I just can't express how dismayed I am. I would expect $150 for a lifetime upgrade option. I would expect $30 for a map upgrade. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. Holy crap.

I bought a 15 Road Glide Special. I love it. But I've replaced the seat, grips, levers, headers, air cleaner, mufflers, and shocks. I can't hear the radio at speed, so I never use it. It won't talk to my Sena or my Scala. It has comms features I can't use on the special. It finds the porn on my phone and plays it when I just want to charge it. There are a bunch of glitches in the nav unit that drive me bananas on a long trip. Seriously, the software in that unit sucks. And the map upgrade costs ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. I still can't get over it. I googled Google to find out what it cost me to get the latest map on my phone. ZERO DOLLARS. ZEEEEERO.

In retrospect, I should not have paid for the special. That was a mistake. Actually, two mistakes. I bought two. One for me and one for my wife. We've both replaced all the same stuff. And, by the way, Russell Cycle Day Long Saddle.

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. Holy crap.
That's it? A buck fifty? Hell, I paid $200 for a navigation disc for my truck before. I wished I could have only paid $150. :(


FWIW, I have 3 free upgrades from my '15 RGU for the maps. :grin:
 

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LOL.

I'll send you my paypal details and you can transfer an extra $150 to me so I can feel good about getting ripped off on a map upgrade :)
 
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