Ok, I read a lot of threads, and normally when they start becoming conflicting, I steer away. I'm going to try to be brief if possible, but also add my thoughts. Up to post #23 this was a completely normal thread, suddenly after one forum member asked a simple question there was an unprovoked attack against a person who has not even posted on this thread for no apparent reason. My story in short, I've been dealing with Howard for a couple of years. When I first met Howard (MM) he was at Daytona, he didn't know me from anybody else coming up to his booth and asking questions. I explained to him I may be interested in shocks (at the time I had gone from OEM to Progressive and still wasn't too happy), and he explained a few things to me, fast forward a whole year later, I still have the same shocks and decide I may finally make a change, during this time I've seen Howard at 2 more rallies, talked to him but still have not bought anything. Bike week 2013, I decide to order shocks from Howard, he gives me a choice of JRI or Ohlin, for my own personal reasons I go with JRI, I order the shocks, then find to my surprise Howard is in Florida and lives 20 minutes away from me. Let me try to rush through this, I go to Howards house and he installs the shocks..... no charge and wouldn't let me give him anything, we both get on our bikes and go for a ride, I notice a difference immediately and Howard informs me they should get even better after breaking in. Fast forward one month later, I see Howard in Leesburg, we go over my riding impressions, he makes a couple of clicks to the shocks, and now I'm really happy. Could I have fine tuned the shocks myself yes, I'm sure I could have, but when you have someone who does this for a living willing to help, why not take advantage? Also in all of my trips to Howards booth, there have been several satisfied present and past customers, a lot of folks he spent time with who didn't buy anything, and I didn't notice him being rude to anyone weather they did or didn't buy anything. Now, back to the thread. I'm not a shock expert at all, but I do like to ride, I've only been riding a little over 40 years, so I think I may be past the novice stage. To be a little blunt, and try not to be offensive, I just don't think it's right for somebody to come on this forum and slam people but constantly say they aren't being rude or attacking anybody when there is constant sarcasm and jabs that say otherwise. If the other person were on here and you were going back and forth, that's one thing, or even if it was just stated plane and simple that you're not happy, ok, but to launch a personal attack and keep going and using the defense that he was rude to you........well where's the proof? I also hope this thread will go back to being just about JRI shocks, and I will probably continue to read, but may not post. Marcus, I don't know who you are, and know nothing about you, but I hope you will be successful at JRI and make a great shock even better. Slo guy, I've never met you, and I'm not trying to offend you, but IMO the slamming in this thread was not necessary, also when you try to tell somebody how they can ride because of the handle bars they have, that shows you need to be more observant and look, I personally know a young lady on a Honda who when she had regular bars that she was uncomfortable with, would slow down before any kind of turn, I wish I could would of made a film of how she corners now....she will be needing more floorboards soon, and her bike hasn't been lowered. Comfort in your riding position means a lot, also contrary to popular belief there are some roads with curves in Florida, you just have to know where to go. Administrator....if I'm out of line in any of my comments, please let me know, and I will humbly apologize. TJ316, calm down, it's a public forum, it can be personal at times, but most people here are intelligent enough to know there are 3 sides to every story. Ok, I've had my say, now I will shut up.