[BPotter]

Hi all..... long time reader. And I must say I have found alot of good info here. Thanks to everyone.....
Ok so I have a 15 RGS, and final bit the bullet and changed bars. I went with the road 6 customs 13" traditional bars.
I tore apart the stock bars everything went fine. I ran the wires in the new bars. Went smooth no issues. I was able to leave the dreaded green plug on the wire harness. I reinstalled the bars. Went to start the bike and fired right up. And lo & behold........ The cruise light was flashing, check engine light was on and no throttle..... that sucks!!!!!!!! I was reading here that I may have wired the tbw plug wrong. So I checked that and changed the wires to what i thought the position should be. Hooked everything up. Hit the start button, and would turn over but no start........ there I am heart broken.....lol Ok so I thought I would start from the beginning. Took the bars off, pulled the right side switch harness and tbw harness out to check the green plug. It appeared to be plugged in and in good shape.
I taped the plug reassembled the right side. Ran down to my local indy shop to double check the tbw plug wire location. Reassembled correctly hooked everything up, put everything together. And started the bike, and again...... cruise light blinking,engine light is on and no throttle!!!!!!!!! I know this subject has been beat to death. I just need help. I wired a 08 Electra Glide with 4 billion wires and didn't have this much trouble.... thanks in advance........

 

[Spazz]

What DTC codes are you getting? IF you are absolutely sure you have repinned correctly.... and ensure you have not pinched anything under the hand control clamps.

Did you pull the main fuse and reset codes? Try it, if not....

Definitely sounds like the wiring is not correct for the TBW... codes will help... pull em and post em

 

[! rock103 !]

Sure sounds like green plug. Did you check the pins in all connections? Maybe out of coincidence the TBW sensor went bad?

 

[BPotter]

What DTC codes are you getting? IF you are absolutely sure you have repinned correctly.... and ensure you have not pinched anything under the hand control clamps.

Did you pull the main fuse and reset codes? Try it, if not....

Definitely sounds like the wiring is not correct for the TBW... codes will help... pull em and post em

I attempt to pull codes last night,but wasn't sure what I was looking at...lol I will read the sticky tonight. I haven't pulled the main fuse either. I compared my tbw plug with a another at my indies shop and it was the same, but it was a batwing. But I would think it would be the same as a roadie.

 

[BPotter]

Sure sounds like green plug. Did you check the pins in all connections? Maybe out of coincidence the TBW sensor went bad?

Is there a way to test the sensor? If all else fails maybe I will just eliminate the green plug and try again.......

 

[! rock103 !]

Your Indy should be able to test the sensor. Eliminating the green plug wouldn't hurt also.

 

[! rock103 !]

Definitely post up the DTC codes.

 

[BPotter]

Definitely post up the DTC codes.

Ok so I pulled the codes
P1510
P2122
P2127
P2138

Any and all help is appreciated

 

[Fmnunes2803]

Here what I found from other sites....

P2122 TGS1 Low/Open. Twist Grip Sensor problem. Loose/faulty or pinched wiring or possibly bad sensor.

P1510 Throttle actuator control limited
P2138 Twistgrop sensor correlation error

This what I found on the P2127/2138

had similar problems, ended up being the black and white wire broken internally about one inch behind the Throttle Control Actuator. The black wire is the TCA sensor ground (sensorsignals tell the ECU the throttle position). Having the Power Vision hooked up made trouble shooting easy because I could look at the twist grip sensor output and the TCA output signal, the twist grip signal moved when I moved the throttle and the TCA signal didn't. You should be able to ohm out the wires and move them around to see if there is any intermittent opens in the wires. Mine would run great then go into limp mode intermittently. The Technical Service Bulletin previously mentioned was a big help in figuring it out.

Not sure if this is related...hope it helps...good luck!!!

 

[! rock103 !]

Priority/DTC/Fault condition
1. P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error
2. P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error
3. U1300 ECM Serial Data Low
4. U1301 ECM Serial Data High
5. U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial Data to ECM
6. U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ECM
7. P1003 System relay contacts open
8. P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted
9. P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low
10. P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed
11. P1009 Incorrect Password
12. P1010 Missing Password
13. P06415 V+Vref 1 Out Of Range
14. P06515 V+Vref 2 Out Of Range
15. P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent
16. P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low
17. P0108 Map Sensor High
18. P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error
19. P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error
20. P1270 TGS Validation Error
21. P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault
22. P2122 TGS1 Low/Open
23. P2123 TGS1 High
24. P2127 TGS2 Low/Open
25. P2128 TGS2 High
26. P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)
27. P0120 TPS1 Range Error
28. P0220 TPS2 Range Error
29. P0122 TPS1 Low
30. P0123 TPS2 High/Open
31. P0222 TPS2 Low
32. P0223 TPS2 High/Open
33. P2135 TPS Correlation Error
34. P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body Range Performance
35. P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open
36. P2101 EFI Motor Circuit Range Performance (Actuation Error)
37. P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low
38. P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High
39. P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned
40. P1514 Air Flow Fault
41. P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown
42. P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low
43. P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High
44. P0572 Brake Switch Low
45. P0117 ET Sensor Low
46. P0118 ET Sensor High
47. P0112I AT Voltage Low
48. P0113I AT Voltage Open/High
49. P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
50. P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
51. P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
52. P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
53. P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
54. P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
55. P0261 Front Injector Open/Low
56. P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low
57. P0262 Front Injector High
58. P0264 Rear Injector High
59. P0562 Battery Voltage Low
60. P0563 Battery Voltage High
61. P0501 VSS Sensor Low
62. P0502 VSS Sensor High/Open..
63. P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion
64. P1353 Front Cylnder No Combustion
65. P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low
66. P0445 Purge Solenoid High
67. P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error
68. P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low
69. P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High
70. P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low
71. P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low
72. P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High
73. P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High
74. P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive
75. P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive
76. P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode
77. P1511 EFI Power Management Mode
78. P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode
79. P0577 Cruise Control Input High

Priority/DTC/Fault condition


HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM = Turn signal module

1. U1300 Serial Data Low
2. U1301 Serial Data High
3. U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data
4. U1255 Serial Data Error
5. B1142 Smart Security System Internal Fault
6. B1135 Accelerometer Failed
7. B1136(HFSM) Accelerometer Tip Test Error
8. B1151 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Ground
9. B1152 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Battery
10. B1153 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) High
11. B1154 Clutch Switch Input Short to Ground
12. B1155 Neutral Switch Input Short to Battery
13. B1134 Starter Output High
14. B1121(TSM) Left Turn Output Fault
B1121(HFSM) Left Turn Output Open
15. B1122(TSM) Right Turn Output Fault
B1122(HFSM) Right Turn Output Open
16. B1123(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Ground
17. B1124(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Ground
18. B1125(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Battery
19. B1126(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Battery
20. B1143(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Ground
21. B1144(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Battery
22. B1145(HFSM) Security Antenna Open
23. B0563 Battery Voltage High
24. B1131(HFSM) Alarm Output Low
25. B1132(HFSM) Alarm Output High
26. B1141(TSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open..
B1141(HFSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open

 

[! rock103 !]

It's your trottle position sensor- green plug. Bet ya

 

[BPotter]

So I pulled the 50amp main fuse and still the same. I attempted to clear the codes out. The P2122 & P2127 cleared but the other 2 (P1510 & P2138)remained.
So I guess I will take the bars off and disassemble and start over. Double and triple check everything. And eliminate the green plug. And see where that gets me.
Thanks everyone for you help and insight on my problems. I will post the results when I get done. Success or failure..lol

 

[! rock103 !]

Ok, that should solve it. I'm thinking it will.

 

[Swomack]

Priority/DTC/Fault condition
1. P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error
2. P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error
3. U1300 ECM Serial Data Low
4. U1301 ECM Serial Data High
5. U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial Data to ECM
6. U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ECM
7. P1003 System relay contacts open
8. P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted
9. P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low
10. P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed
11. P1009 Incorrect Password
12. P1010 Missing Password
13. P06415 V+Vref 1 Out Of Range
14. P06515 V+Vref 2 Out Of Range
15. P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent
16. P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low
17. P0108 Map Sensor High
18. P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error
19. P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error
20. P1270 TGS Validation Error
21. P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault
22. P2122 TGS1 Low/Open
23. P2123 TGS1 High
24. P2127 TGS2 Low/Open
25. P2128 TGS2 High
26. P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)
27. P0120 TPS1 Range Error
28. P0220 TPS2 Range Error
29. P0122 TPS1 Low
30. P0123 TPS2 High/Open
31. P0222 TPS2 Low
32. P0223 TPS2 High/Open
33. P2135 TPS Correlation Error
34. P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body Range Performance
35. P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open
36. P2101 EFI Motor Circuit Range Performance (Actuation Error)
37. P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low
38. P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High
39. P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned
40. P1514 Air Flow Fault
41. P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown
42. P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low
43. P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High
44. P0572 Brake Switch Low
45. P0117 ET Sensor Low
46. P0118 ET Sensor High
47. P0112I AT Voltage Low
48. P0113I AT Voltage Open/High
49. P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
50. P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
51. P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
52. P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
53. P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
54. P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
55. P0261 Front Injector Open/Low
56. P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low
57. P0262 Front Injector High
58. P0264 Rear Injector High
59. P0562 Battery Voltage Low
60. P0563 Battery Voltage High
61. P0501 VSS Sensor Low
62. P0502 VSS Sensor High/Open..
63. P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion
64. P1353 Front Cylnder No Combustion
65. P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low
66. P0445 Purge Solenoid High
67. P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error
68. P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low
69. P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High
70. P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low
71. P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low
72. P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High
73. P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High
74. P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive
75. P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive
76. P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode
77. P1511 EFI Power Management Mode
78. P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode
79. P0577 Cruise Control Input High

Priority/DTC/Fault condition


HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM = Turn signal module

1. U1300 Serial Data Low
2. U1301 Serial Data High
3. U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data
4. U1255 Serial Data Error
5. B1142 Smart Security System Internal Fault
6. B1135 Accelerometer Failed
7. B1136(HFSM) Accelerometer Tip Test Error
8. B1151 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Ground
9. B1152 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Battery
10. B1153 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) High
11. B1154 Clutch Switch Input Short to Ground
12. B1155 Neutral Switch Input Short to Battery
13. B1134 Starter Output High
14. B1121(TSM) Left Turn Output Fault
B1121(HFSM) Left Turn Output Open
15. B1122(TSM) Right Turn Output Fault
B1122(HFSM) Right Turn Output Open
16. B1123(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Ground
17. B1124(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Ground
18. B1125(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Battery
19. B1126(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Battery
20. B1143(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Ground
21. B1144(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Battery
22. B1145(HFSM) Security Antenna Open
23. B0563 Battery Voltage High
24. B1131(HFSM) Alarm Output Low
25. B1132(HFSM) Alarm Output High
26. B1141(TSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open..
B1141(HFSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open

Great Info Rock113!!

 

[KennyD104]

Gonna be putting some Factory47 14" Malo Bars on in the next few months. What do people mean when they say get rid of the green connector? How do you get rid of it if its the cable for the throttle. Any info or tips would be great. thanks

 

[! rock103 !]

Gonna be putting some Factory47 14" Malo Bars on in the next few months. What do people mean when they say get rid of the green connector? How do you get rid of it if its the cable for the throttle. Any info or tips would be great. thanks

There are some awesome threads on the process, but you basically cut the wires fore and aft of the green plug and solder them together. There are instructions on which color coded wire goes where and tips and tricks. Check them out in the controls and handlebar thread.

 

[immo2896]

Sticky: How To Fix TBW Issues After Internal Wiring (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)

Thread Rating: 3 votes, 5.00 average. Donk
Read this a couple of times. I did , and it was spot on. It's in the control and handlebars section.

 

[rg_dave]

Or pick up an SE TBW. Plug is at the bottom. I soldered the green plug out on my SG and Used the SE on my RG. Be careful yanking on those wires. I have seen them get mucked up around the sensor or mess up the sensor.

 

[BPotter]

UPDATE !!!!
Ok so I tore the bars apart. Pulled all the wires out, both sides. Basically started from scratch. Checked and double checked the green plug. Seamed to look fine but, I decided I would remove it anyway. I went to the sticky post and read it. Followed the directions to the t. After I got the wires all soldered up I even double checked.... reassembled the the bars. The wires pulled thru easy, no problems. Put the bars on, got everything hooked up. Started the scooter and samething "UUUGGG!!!!!!"...... engine light on, cruise light blinking and no throttle....
I even pulled the neg. Batt cable and samething.
So I am going to assume the TGS took a dump or TPS........
Any other ideas from the guru's
Thanks all
BTW the codes are P1510 & P2138

 

[rg_dave]

Double check the wires in all your plugs. Its easy to get some reversed.